Value of g on Earth with a smaller radius

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The discussion revolves around the gravitational acceleration (g) on Earth if its radius were halved while keeping its mass constant. Participants explore the implications of this change on the value of g and the underlying physics principles involved.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the manipulation of the gravitational formula and question the reasoning behind the initial calculations. There is an exploration of how to correctly set up the relationship between the original and new values of g based on changes in radius.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem, suggesting the use of ratios to compare gravitational acceleration before and after the change in radius. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct interpretation of the gravitational formula in this context.

Contextual Notes

There is a recognition of potential confusion regarding the values of g before and after the change, as well as the assumptions made about the uniformity of mass distribution within the Earth.

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What would be the value of g if the radius of the Earth was decreased by half while maintaining the same mass.

This is what I did

g = MG / R^2

g = MG / (0.5R)^2

g = MG / 0.25R^2

0.25g = MG / R^2

I know this is not correct and the actual answer is 4g because as you get closer to the center of the Earth the gravitational force will increase but I cannot figure out why this attempt is wrong.
 
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Hi Jimmy25! :smile:

(try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
Jimmy25 said:
What would be the value of g if the radius of the Earth was decreased by half while maintaining the same mass.

g = MG / 0.25R^2

0.25g = MG / R^2

Why did you put that 0.25 on the LHS? :confused:
 
What you have initially is the gravitational acceleration due to the Earth while you're at the surface, or at a distance R. You then manipulated the equation to ask not what the value of g would be at the surface if the radius was half as large, but what would the value of the acceleration be at that same distance R if the radius was half as large.

What I would do is setup a ratio, g' and g, where g' is at the surface of some planet with radius R' with the same mass, but then take R' = 0.5R and divide the two equations.
 
you confuse the values of g before and after the shrinking of the earth

you have g_old = MG/R^2

now g_new is MG/(0.5*R)^2

and (0.25)*g_new = MG/R^2 = g_old so

g_new = 4*g_old, as expected
 
willem2 said:
(0.25)*g_new = MG/R^2 = g_old so

g_new = 4*g_old, as expected

Ok I see. So gold was equal to one quarter gnew

Thanks, was racking my brain over this one. Sometimes the simplest question can be the most challenging.
 

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