Discussion Overview
The discussion centers around the theoretical derivation of the Lennard-Jones potential, specifically the components of the potential and their physical interpretations. Participants explore various sources, including papers and textbooks, that address the derivation and implications of the potential in the context of intermolecular forces.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant requests references for a theoretical derivation of the Lennard-Jones potential.
- Another participant cites J E Lennard-Jones's article "Cohesion" as a source, along with various academic lecture notes and a Wikipedia article.
- Concerns are raised about the physicality of the ##\frac{1}{r^{12}}## term, suggesting it is a numerical convenience rather than a physically meaningful component.
- It is noted that the ##\frac{1}{r^6}## term arises from a perturbative treatment of dipole-dipole interactions, representing the short-distance limit of the full interaction without considering retardation effects.
- References to "Molecular Quantum Electrodynamics" by Craig and Thirunamachandran and a three-volume QM textbook by Cohen-Tannoudji, Diu, and Laloe are provided for further details on the derivation.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the physical significance of the ##\frac{1}{r^{12}}## term, with some arguing it is merely a numerical artifact while others focus on the derivation of the ##\frac{1}{r^6}## term. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the interpretation of these components.
Contextual Notes
There are references to various sources that may contain derivations, but no consensus on a singular authoritative derivation is reached. The discussion includes assumptions about the physical relevance of certain terms in the potential.