Vapor Pressure of saturated/unsaturated solution

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the vapor pressure of saturated and unsaturated NaCl aqueous solutions at the same temperature. Participants explore the implications of Raoult's law on vapor pressure, boiling point, and the behavior of solutions during evaporation.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that solution (2), being unsaturated, has a greater vapor pressure of water (PH2O) compared to solution (1), which is saturated, due to a higher mole fraction of solvent (Xsolvent).
  • Others suggest that solution (1) has a lower vapor pressure and therefore a higher boiling point than solution (2), based on the same reasoning regarding mole fractions.
  • A participant expresses confusion about how PH2O could remain constant as water evaporates from one of the solutions, seeking clarification on this point.
  • Another participant describes the behavior of the solutions during evaporation, noting that for solution (2), the mole fraction of water decreases, while for solution (1), the mole fraction remains constant due to the solidification of salt.
  • Some participants affirm the correctness of the observations regarding the behavior of the solutions during evaporation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the behavior of the solutions during evaporation, but there is uncertainty regarding the specific answers to the questions posed, particularly about the conditions under which PH2O remains constant.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the behavior of saturated and unsaturated solutions, the application of Raoult's law, and the effects of evaporation, which may not be fully resolved or universally accepted among participants.

Who May Find This Useful

Students studying physical chemistry, particularly those interested in solution chemistry and vapor pressure concepts.

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Homework Statement

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As the picture shows, there are two NaClaq solutions. One is saturated while the other is not and both of them are at the same temperature. There are three questions asked:
a) Above which solution is the vapor pressure of water, PH2O, greater? Explain.
b) Above one of these solutions, the vapor pressure of water, PH2O, remains constant, even as water evaporates from solution. Which solution is this? Explain.
c) Which of these solutions has the higher boiling point? Explain.


2. Homework Equations

As Raoult's law states: Psolution=Psolvent*Xsolvent
where Xsolvent is the mole fraction of the solvent in the solution. In this case, Xsolvent is XH2O.[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution



**For question a), solution (2) has a greater PH2O value because the amount of solute (in this case NaCl) is less than that of solution (1) therefore Xsolvent of solution (2) is greater than that of solution (1).

**For question c), solution (1) has a smaller PH2O value and therefore the boiling point of solution (1) would be higher than that of solution (2).[/B]

I'm left confused by question b) because I cannot prove how PH2O could remain constant. I would be glad if someone could explain the logic of this question. Please check as well if the previous answers/explanations for question a) and c) are appropriate or not.
 

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I've made a mistake for question a) & c)


For question a), solution (2) has a greater PH2O value because the amount of solute (in this case NaCl) is less than that of solution (1) therefore Xsolvent of solution (2) is greater than that of solution (1).


For question c), solution (1) has a smaller PH2Ovalue and therefore the boiling point of solution (1) would be higher than that of solution (2).
 
What happens to the solutions as water evaporates? Describe both cases.
 
As water evaporates, the amount of solvent (water) in both solutions decreases. For solution (2) the mole fraction of water should decrease in value. If I'm not mistaken, for solution (1) (which is saturated), as the water evaporates, some of the salt solidifies as well in proportion. So, the mole fraction of solvent of solution (1) remains constant.

Is this correct?
 
Very good.
 
So the answer is definitely 2,1,1?
 
Joshua Kenny said:
One is saturated while the other is not
"Not saturated, saturated, saturated."
 
Thanks a bunch!
 

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