Grams of solute needed to lower vapor pressure of solvent?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mass of KCl needed to lower the vapor pressure of water by 5% using Raoult's law. The initial calculations led to confusion regarding the dissociation of KCl, which has a van 't Hoff factor of 2, indicating it dissociates into two ions. Participants debated the correct application of mole fractions and whether to consider the dissociation in their calculations. Ultimately, it was concluded that both approaches to solving the problem are valid, with the correct mass of KCl needed being approximately 109 grams per liter of water. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding colligative properties and the implications of solute dissociation in vapor pressure calculations.
  • #31
Elvis 123456789 said:
I also found this key for an exam and the problem is solved the way i had originally done it? ...http://rogersal.people.cofc.edu/Fire Alarm Test.pdf
Okay that's also correct by using only mole fraction of solvent.
But the link is ignoring the fact of complete dissociation of KCl.
 
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  • #32
Elvis 123456789 said:
Why is it necessary to get the mole fraction of the solute? Isn't it enough to have the mole fraction of the solvent "X=0.95"

(55.51mol H2O)/(2z + 55.51mol H2O)=0.95--------> z= 1.46mol KCl * 74.55g/mol -----> z= 109g KCl

Is this way valid? Or is it necessary to use the other formula?
The answer you are getting matches with Borek and here you are taking in account complete dissociation of KCl.
But why the link is not showing that. It is giving the answer 221g?
 
  • #33
Yah I don't know what's up with that. The key was apparently made by someone with a Phd in chemistry or a closely related field.
 
  • #34
Anyways I realize that you are correct.
 
  • #35
Well this has been a pretty lengthy thread. Thank you for staying with me and helping me out, its been much appreciated.
 
  • #36
You are welcome. I hope you would do the same for somebody but in a short way.:smile:
 
  • #37
Elvis 123456789 said:
Why is it necessary to get the mole fraction of the solute? Isn't it enough to have the mole fraction of the solvent "X=0.95"

(55.51mol H2O)/(2z + 55.51mol H2O)=0.95--------> z= 1.46mol KCl * 74.55g/mol -----> z= 109g KCl

Is this way valid? Or is it necessary to use the other formula?

Both approaches are perfectly valid and equivalent.
 

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