Various Problems for Precalculus Exam, Unit 1

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The discussion revolves around various precalculus problems, including graphing functions, analyzing transformations, and finding horizontal asymptotes. The specific functions under consideration include polynomial functions and rational functions.

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  • Participants discuss the intervals of increase and decrease for a cubic function, with some providing specific local maximum and minimum points. Others express confusion regarding the transformations of a function and the significance of certain parameters. The horizontal asymptote of a rational function is also analyzed, with attempts to clarify the process of finding limits and factoring.

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There is active engagement with multiple interpretations being explored, particularly regarding the transformations and asymptotes. Some participants offer guidance on how to approach the limit for the horizontal asymptote, while others seek clarification on specific steps and reasoning.

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Participants note discrepancies in the problem statements, such as the presence of a square term instead of a cubic term, and express uncertainty about the transformations described. There is also mention of homework constraints and the need for further elaboration on certain mathematical procedures.

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Homework Statement


6. Draw a graph of the function f, and determine the intervals on which f is increasing and on which f is decreasing where f(x)=2x3-3x2-12x

9. Suppose the graph of f is given. Using transformations, describe how the graph of the following function can be obtained from the graph of f: y=2f(x+4)-5

21. Find the equation of the horizontal asymptote of the function g(x)=[tex]\frac{x^{3}}{3x^{3}-2x}[/tex].

Homework Equations


6. f(x)=2x3-3x2-12x

9. y=2f(x+4)-5

21. g(x)=[tex]\frac{x^{3}}{3x^{3}-2x}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


6. Calculated graph in which local maximum was (-1,7) and local minimum was (2,-20). Said that for -[tex]\infty[/tex] through -1, y is increasing and for -1 through 2, y is decreasing, and for 2 through [tex]\infty[/tex], y is increasing.

9. (x+4) means left 4, -5 means down 5, 2 means twice the height, - means reflect over x-axis.

21. g(x)=[tex]\frac{x^{2}}{3x^{2-}2}[/tex] so the horizontal asymptote must equal 0 because the lim g(x) as x[tex]\rightarrow\infty[/tex]=0.
 
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jacksonpeeble said:

Homework Statement


6. Draw a graph of the function f, and determine the intervals on which f is increasing and on which f is decreasing where f(x)=2x2-3x2-12x

9. Suppose the graph of f is given. Using transformations, describe how the graph of the following function can be obtained from the graph of f: y=2f(x+4)-5

21. Find the equation of the horizontal asymptote of the function g(x)=[tex]\frac{x^{3}}{3x^{3}-2x}[/tex].

Homework Equations


6. f(x)=2x2-3x2-12x

9. y=2f(x+4)-5

21. g(x)=[tex]\frac{x^{3}}{3x^{3}-2x}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


6. Calculated graph in which local maximum was (-1,7) and local minimum was (2,-20). Said that for -[tex]\infty[/tex] through -1, y is increasing and for -1 through 2, y is decreasing, and for 2 through [tex]\infty[/tex], y is increasing.

9. (x+4) means left 4, -5 means down 5, 3 means down 3, - means reflect over x-axis.

21. g(x)=[tex]\frac{x^{2}}{3x^{2-}2}[/tex] so the horizontal asymptote must equal 0 because the lim g(x) as x[tex]\rightarrow\infty[/tex]=0.

6. I think it was cubic (you have square)
looks good
see: http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/498/graphmr5.jpg

9. x+4 shifts to left, -5 down.. don't know about "3 means down 3, - means reflect over x-axis." don't see them in the question.

21. Looks wrong.. trying factoring out x^2 from the denominator ...
 
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For 21, try multiplying and dividing by x^3 and then find the limit.

You could also go about it by reasoning that as x gets arbitrarily large 3x^2 - 2 -> 3x^2. The limit is easy to find then.
 
rootX said:
6. I think it was cubic (you have square)
looks good
see: http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/498/graphmr5.jpg

9. x+4 shifts to left, -5 down.. don't know about "3 means down 3, - means reflect over x-axis." don't see them in the question.

21. Looks wrong.. trying factoring out x^2 from the denominator ...

Thanks! What did you use to generate that graph? (You're correct about the cube rather than square.)

For #9, I was simply trying to find the significance of the other numbers (and that's what I was confused about). Are you saying that all I needed to find were the two that you already said were correct?

As for #21, I'm just stumped. (Also, thank you to jgens for your response, but I'm afraid I don't know what you mean.) Could somebody please elaborate some more and possibly break the procedure down for me? You can't factor out x^2 from the denominator, can you? The second term doesn't have x^2 in it...
 
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jacksonpeeble said:
Thanks! What did you use to generate that graph? (You're correct about the cube rather than square.)

For #9, I was simply trying to find the significance of the other numbers (and that's what I was confused about). Are you saying that all I needed to find were the two that you already said were correct?

As for #21, I'm just stumped. (Also, thank you to jgens for your response, but I'm afraid I don't know what you mean.) Could somebody please elaborate some more and possibly break the procedure down for me? You can't factor out x^2 from the denominator, can you? The second term doesn't have x^2 in it...

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http://www.padowan.dk/graph/

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It's just this thing. You talked about 4 and -5, but there isn't any 3 ...
y=2f(x+4)-5

#21
Yes, you can factor out. If you don't see how, multiply the denominator by x^2/x^2.

x^2*[1/x^2 * den] and you have your x^2 out.
 
rootX said:
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http://www.padowan.dk/graph/

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It's just this thing. You talked about 4 and -5, but there isn't any 3 ...
y=2f(x+4)-5

#21
Yes, you can factor out. If you don't see how, multiply the denominator by x^2/x^2.

x^2*[1/x^2 * den] and you have your x^2 out.

Thanks! I see what you mean now! I really appreciate the help.

About number 9 - I accidentally copied part of the next question on our review sheet into this post. I changed it. It was supposed to say "2 means 2x as high." The negative means flip of axis was accurate. Is this updated version correct :wink:
 
For questions like #9, it might be helpful to pick a function... say f(x) = x^2 or whatever you want and then see what's happening i.e. what's the difference between x^2 and (x+4)^2 (i.e. f(x) and f(x+4))?
 
Sorry my post was difficult to understand, I'll explain it better.

If we multiply and divide the function x^3/(3x^3-2x) by x^3 we get (with a little algebraic manipulation) 1/(3-2/x^2). The limit is easy to find then.

My second suggestion arises from the fact that for large x, 3x^2 - 2 is essentially equivalent to 3x^2 - you can show this by using any large value for x; eventually, the difference becomes negligible. Using that logic, it's easy to find the limit.
 
jgens said:
If we multiply and divide the function x^3/(3x^3-2x) by x^3 we get (with a little algebraic manipulation) 1/(3-2/x^2). The limit is easy to find then.

My second suggestion arises from the fact that for large x, 3x^2 - 2 is essentially equivalent to 3x^2 - you can show this by using any large value for x; eventually, the difference becomes negligible. Using that logic, it's easy to find the limit.
I remember reading from an Algebra 2 book this rule to find horizontal asymptotes, which is essentially what jgens et. al. said:
Both the numerator and denominator are polynomials. Compare the degrees of these polynomials. (To save typing, d_num = "degree of the polynomial in the numerator," and d_den = "degree of the polynomial in the denominator.)
1) If d_num < d_den, then the horizontal asymptote is y = 0.
2) If d_num = d_den, then the horizontal asymptote is y = the quotient of the leading coefficients (**** this is what you should use for your #21)
3) If d_num > d_den, then there is no horizontal asymptote. (There is a slant asymptote.)


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