Vector Equation of Straight Line: y=4x+3

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The discussion revolves around finding a vector equation for a straight line represented by the equation y=4x+3. The subject area includes vector equations, Cartesian coordinates, and parametric equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to convert the given equation into Cartesian and then into parametric form but expresses uncertainty about the process. Some participants clarify that the equation is already in Cartesian form and suggest parameterization. Others provide examples of vector equations in three dimensions and discuss the implications of the equation being in two dimensions.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering guidance on how to approach the problem. There is an exploration of different interpretations regarding the dimensionality of the equation and how to derive the vector form from it. Multiple perspectives on the parameterization process are being considered.

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Participants note that the equation y=4x+3 describes a plane in three dimensions, leading to the clarification that it should be considered in the xy-plane with z=0. There is also mention of the arbitrary nature of the parameter used in vector equations.

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Homework Statement


find a vector equation for the straight line given by y=4x+3


Homework Equations


y=mx+c


The Attempt at a Solution



i think i need to change this into cartiesen then to parametrics but have no idea how to change that equation into cartisean
 
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Welcome to PF rose,

The equation is already in Cartesian form, all you need to do now is parameterise it.
 
Ok, thanks for pointing that out but as a person who has never been taught any of this before any chance of an example of how to do that? I've done it before when it has been for exampl r1=i+2j+2K+ landa(i-j+3k) yes i know how to get that into parametrics but not if its just y=4x+3
 
Okay, you have done this when you have 3 dimensions and I think you are saying you can find the vector equation of a line through 2 given points: the line through (1, 2, 2) and (2, 1, 5) has "direction vector" (2-1)i+ (1-2)j+ (5-2)k= i- j+ 3k so we can write the vector equation as r= (i+ 2j+ 2k)+ lambda(i- j+ 3k).

One problem you have is that the single equation y= 4x+ 3 is that a single equation in 3 dimensions describes a plane, not a line. So you must mean "in the xy-plane" which means that z= 0.

Now, one way to do that is to find two points! if x= 0, y= 3 so one point the line passes through is (0, 3, 0). If x= 1, y= 7 so another point is (1, 7, 0). Use exactly the same method as above to find the vector equation of the line through those two points. You should see that the component of the k vector is 0: the line is always in the xy-plane, of course.

One thing that may be confusing you is that the is no one vector equation. The parameter, lambda, has no "geometrical" meaning and can be chosen almost arbitrarily. When we have all the other coordinates written as functions of the other (here y is a function of x) we can always use that one coordinate as the parameter. That is, if y= f(x), we can write x= lambda, y= f(lambda) and have the vector equation r= lambda i+ f(lambda) j.
 

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