Vectors - Prove the following relation about the centroid

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The problem involves proving a relation concerning the centroid of a triangle defined by points O, A, and B, along with a variable point P. The relation to be proven involves the squared distances from point P to the vertices and the centroid.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss different approaches to the proof, including treating different points as the origin and considering the symmetry of the problem. There are questions about the implications of angles between vectors and how to simplify the equation.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various methods to tackle the proof, with some suggesting starting from different parts of the equation. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach, but several productive lines of reasoning are being examined.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge posed by unknown angles between vectors and the implications of symmetry in the proof. There is an emphasis on the complexity of the equation and the need for simplification.

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Homework Statement


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Given is the triangle OAB and a variable point P. G is the centroid. Prove that:
PA2+PB2+PO2=GA2+GB2+GO2+3 (PG2)


The Attempt at a Solution


I treat O as the origin.
Vectors are denoted in bold.
Position vectors of A, B, P are a,b and p respectively.
G=a+b/3
How on Earth am I going to prove that:
9(|p-a|2+|p-b|2+|p|2)=|b-2a|2+|a-2b|2+|a+b|2+3|a+b-3p|2

I mean is there any criteria to prove this equation in modulus of vectors when I don't know the angles between any of them?
 
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ritwik06 said:
Given is the triangle OAB and a variable point P. G is the centroid. Prove that:
PA2+PB2+PO2=GA2+GB2+GO2+3 (PG2)

I treat O as the origin.
Vectors are denoted in bold.
Position vectors of A, B, P are a,b and p respectively.
G=a+b/3

Hi ritwik06! :smile:

No, it'll be easier ('cos it's more symmetrical) if you treat P as the origin, and use g = (1/3)(a + b + c) :wink:

(when the answer is symmetrical, always try to keep the proof symmetrical! :wink:)
 


tiny-tim said:
Hi ritwik06! :smile:

No, it'll be easier ('cos it's more symmetrical) if you treat P as the origin, and use g = (1/3)(a + b + c) :wink:

(when the answer is symmetrical, always try to keep the proof symmetrical! :wink:)


Thanks a lot tim.
I have done exactly that. And I get:
a2+b2+c2=1/9(|a+b-2c|2+|b+c-2a|2+|a+c-2b|2+3|a+b+c|2)

But the fact still remains that I don't know many angle such as th one made by b+c-2a.?? I think it is 0.
 
No … start with the complicated part of the equation, and try to simplify it, not the other way round!

In other words, start with (g - a)2 + (g - b)2 + (g - c)2 :smile:
 

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