Vegetarian Meals: Tasty & Affordable for Vegans

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The discussion revolves around the taste, affordability, and nutritional aspects of vegetarian and vegan meals. Participants explore personal experiences, dietary choices, and the challenges of maintaining a vegetarian or vegan diet, including ingredient availability and meal preparation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether vegetarian meals can be as tasty as meat-based meals and discuss the necessary spending to create satisfying vegetarian dishes.
  • One participant shares a personal transition to vegetarianism influenced by ethical considerations, expressing a sense of cleanliness associated with the diet.
  • Concerns are raised about the availability of ingredients for a healthy vegetarian diet, particularly in rural areas.
  • There are mixed feelings about veganism, with some participants expressing hesitation while others consider incorporating more vegetarian meals into their diets.
  • Participants discuss the nutritional aspects of vegetarian diets, including the need for vitamin supplements and adequate protein intake.
  • One participant shares their experience of feeling ill when adhering strictly to a vegetarian diet due to anemia, emphasizing the need for occasional meat consumption.
  • Several meal ideas are proposed, including lentils, stews, and various pasta dishes, highlighting the diversity of vegetarian cuisine.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of focusing on the whole meal rather than just meat substitutes, suggesting that vegetarian meals can be both nutritious and flavorful.
  • There is mention of the perception that vegetarian meals may require careful planning and understanding of nutritional values, particularly for those considering veganism.
  • Participants share tips on keeping a well-stocked pantry for vegetarian cooking, including various beans, sauces, and fresh produce.
  • One participant argues that vegetarian meals can be as good as meat-based meals, citing the use of subtle flavors in vegan cooking.
  • Concerns are raised about the cost of vegetarian meals compared to meat-based options, with some suggesting that good sources can mitigate this difference.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the taste and nutritional adequacy of vegetarian and vegan meals, with no clear consensus on whether vegetarian meals can fully replace meat-based options. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approaches to vegetarianism and veganism.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the need for careful planning in vegan diets and the potential for nutritional deficiencies, but these points remain open for further exploration without definitive conclusions.

  • #151
Monique said:
Made this for a guest and was approved :smile:: Spicy potatoes served with black eyed peas, which are covered by a curry of mushrooms in tomatoes. Sprinkle the potatoes and mushrooms with fresh coriander to finish.
That sounds incredible, I'm going to have to make it.
 
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  • #152
Thanks, I actually bought a little booklet and started writing down some of the stuff I make on a regular basis, I rarely follow a recipe anymore. Right now it's filling up with vegetables I've never cooked before, from my mothers cookbook that I borrowed. I don't even know the english names: knolselderij, pastinaken, meiknolletjes, schorseneren, ramenas, koolraap, koolrabi, rabarber, raapstelen, postelein, zuring.
 
  • #153
wolram said:
1/4 cup EVOO {extra virgin olive oil} :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:
What's so funny? They really do call it EVOO.
 
  • #154
koolrabi = kohlrabi (I think...sounds like it probably is) I like it raw in salads, somewhat like a radish flavor.

rabarber = rhubarb (I was able to confirm that one http://www.flyswatter.com/nawc/fruitsveggies.htm )

I can't even guess at the others.
 
  • #155
OK, I just whipped myself up a yummy dinner.. but something is missing. It's a colorful salad with cubes of diced cucumber, chick peas, whole pitted black olives, and grape tomatoes all tossed in red wine vinaigrette with a teaspoon of crushed garlic.

I think the missing ingredient is chopped red onion. Any other recommendations?
 
  • #156
Oh no! You forgot ham, lemon juice (I like lots! instead of dressing, because I don't like it), shredded cheeses, and parmesan.
 
  • #157
Math Is Hard said:
OK, I just whipped myself up a yummy dinner.. but something is missing. It's a colorful salad with cubes of diced cucumber, chick peas, whole pitted black olives, and grape tomatoes all tossed in red wine vinaigrette with a teaspoon of crushed garlic.

I think the missing ingredient is chopped red onion. Any other recommendations?

I like fruit with salad, may be pineapple or orange, i know you super cooks
think I am bonkers :-p but i like it
 
  • #158
Ohhhh this is the vegetarian thread... well in that case don't use the ham, and if you're pias, only use the lemon juice. You can add in a half a teaspoon of baking soda to get rid of that unpleasant smell in your breath afterwards. It works in refrigerators!
 
  • #159
Mk said:
Oh no! You forgot ham, lemon juice (I like lots! instead of dressing, because I don't like it), shredded cheeses, and parmesan.

OH no! I am so busted. I just went and put some ham in it. How did you know? :redface: :redface:
Oh, dear, the veg police are on to me! They see everything! :eek: :cry:
 
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  • #160
wolram said:
I like fruit with salad, may be pineapple or orange, i know you super cooks
think I am bonkers :-p but i like it
I have a thing for grapes and bleu cheese in a salad. Still trying to find the right recipe though.
 
  • #161
Math Is Hard said:
I have a thing for grapes and bleu cheese in a salad. Still trying to find the right recipe though.

I love blue cheese but I cannot imagine grapes in my salad. we are talking about the kind of salad you eat right?
 
  • #162
Invented a soup today (enough for two):

3 red bell peppers
1 red onion
1 large tomato
1 cube vegetable stock
1 inch skinless cucumber

Roast the bell peppers under the oven grill.

Fry onion in pan, add tomato.
Add the roasted bell peppers, black skin removed.
Add a cup of water and the bouillon cube and let everything simmer.
Blend until smooth, add water to get a creamy texture.

Chop up an inch of cucumber (without skin) into very small cubes.
Add to the soup, for a fresh bite.

DELICIOUS! :biggrin:
 
  • #163
Monique said:
I don't even know the english names: knolselderij, pastinaken, meiknolletjes, schorseneren, ramenas, koolraap, koolrabi, rabarber, raapstelen, postelein, zuring.
Moonbear said:
koolrabi = kohlrabi (I think...sounds like it probably is) I like it raw in salads, somewhat like a radish flavor.

rabarber = rhubarb (I was able to confirm that one http://www.flyswatter.com/nawc/fruitsveggies.htm )

I can't even guess at the others.

Try google's Image search, it seems to work for most of them. Ex: For "Zuring", image search led me to http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dzuring%26sm%3DYahoo%2521%2BSearch%26toggle%3D1%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3DFP-tab-web-t&h=160&w=160&imgcurl=www.neerlandstuin.nl%2Fpics6%2Fzuring2.jpg&imgurl=www.neerlandstuin.nl%2Fpics6%2Fzuring2.jpg&size=7.3kB&name=zuring2.jpg&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.neerlandstuin.nl%2Fplanten%2Fzuring.html&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.neerlandstuin.nl%2Fplanten%2Fzuring.html&p=zuring&type=jpeg&no=1&tt=34&ei=UTF-8 page in the Netherlands, with photographs and the scientific, Rumex acetosa, which of course is common Sorrel.

wolram said:
I am saving all these pages for future use, can Monique, Evo, or Moobear suggest a list of spices and herbs to store please.
 
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  • #164
What's tasty on bread?

My favorite:
peanut butter with a generous amount of sambal and slices of cucumber
 
  • #165
Between http://www.hri.ac.uk/enveg/data/raw/vegdata.htm , I've been doing a lot of translating today:

Nederlands / Scientific / English
knolselderij / Apium graveolens var. rapaceum / celeriac
pastinaken / Pastinaca sativa / parsnip
meiknolletjes - ?
schorseneren/ Scorzonera hispanica / black salsify, 'black oyster plant', 'serpent root', 'viper's grass'; a photo http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/schaugarten/ScorzonerahispanicaL/Black_salsify.html
ramenas / Raphanus sativus / radish
koolraap / Brassica napus / rutabaga, swedish turnip, yellow turnip
koolrabi / Brassica oleracea var. gongylodes / kohlrabi (the German name)
rabarber / Rheum rhabarbarum / rhubarb (Moonbear got this one before me)
raapstelen / (?) Brassica rapa var. rapa / my guess is a turnip? (raap-)
postelein / Portulaca oleracea syn. Portulaca sativa / purslane, 'pusley', 'little hogweed'
zuring / Rumex acetosa / common sorrel

Hope this helps! Links are all to wikipedia articles (English versions).
 
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  • #166
Monique said:
What's tasty on bread?

My favorite:
peanut butter with a generous amount of sambal and slices of cucumber

Black current jelly, strong cheese, lettuce and cucumber

Garlic bread just on its own
 
  • #167
I made a ginger cake today, when it was cooking it did not smell right, but
i thought it was just my sense of smell, i have just tried a peice, it is awful
and i have found out why, i used garam masala instead of soft brown sugar
:cry: :blushing:
 

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