Vehicle Ride Vibration: Estimate Pitching, Bouncing & Rolling

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around estimating the natural frequencies of vehicle pitching, bouncing, and rolling. Participants explore the factors influencing vehicle excitation and the challenges of measuring frequency content under real-world conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to determine if the excitation has appropriate frequency content.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding vehicle suspension basics, including proper spring rates and shock dampers, as well as tire types and road conditions.
  • A participant specifies their interest in frequency ranges: 0 to 10 Hz for bouncing and pitching, and 0 to 3 Hz for rolling, mentioning an ISO standard for rolling response that may not suit their needs.
  • The same participant discusses the idea of testing on a rough track at varying speeds but questions the adequacy of the excitation frequency amplitude content due to lack of precise control over excitation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are multiple competing views on how to approach the estimation of vehicle frequencies and the challenges associated with excitation measurement.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific vehicle characteristics, the variability of road conditions, and the unresolved nature of the excitation frequency content assessment.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in vehicle dynamics, suspension design, and experimental methods for measuring vehicle responses may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi guys, I want to estimate vehicle pitching, bouncing and rolling natual frequencies. I am doubdful in the vehicle excitement. How can I understand if the excitation has a good frequency content?
 
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tuff question..you have to understand the basics of the vehicle suspension before you can
1. determine proper spring rate
2. proper shock ( dampers)
also
what type tire? tire construction..radial . bias ply, material ??
i suggest you read race car suspension post i did earlier on this forum
you have to look at track surface ( road conditions)
 
Ranger Mike said:
tuff question..you have to understand the basics of the vehicle suspension before you can
1. determine proper spring rate
2. proper shock ( dampers)
also
what type tire? tire construction..radial . bias ply, material ??
i suggest you read race car suspension post i did earlier on this forum
you have to look at track surface ( road conditions)

I have studied the problem, I am interested to frequency from 0 to 10Hz at maximun for bouncing and pitching, while for rolling from 0 to 3Hz. I have read there is a ISO's standard for estimating the vehicle frequency rolling responce, through the application of a steering wheel oscillation, but it isn't good for me because I have to measure also other accelerations and they has a good meanings only during real vehicle traveling condition. I have thougth to pass on a rough track at different speeds, but my doubt is to understand if the excitation frequency amplitude content is good enough since I can't control precisely the excitation. I hope to have explained better my problem.
 
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serbring said:
I have studied the problem, I am interested to frequency from 0 to 10Hz at maximun for bouncing and pitching, while for rolling from 0 to 3Hz. I have read there is a ISO's standard for estimating the vehicle frequency rolling responce, through the application of a steering wheel oscillation, but it isn't good for me because I have to measure also other accelerations and they has a good meanings only during real vehicle traveling condition. I have thougth to pass on a rough track at different speeds, but my doubt is to understand if the excitation frequency amplitude content is good enough since I can't control precisely the excitation. I hope to have explained better my problem.

can anyone help me?
 
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