Velocity and acceleration and drag

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving drag, velocity, and acceleration. The original poster presents a scenario where drag is proportional to the square of the velocity, and they are tasked with finding the drag and propulsion forces based on given data and equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between drag and velocity, questioning how to derive propulsion and drag from the provided equations. There is discussion about the implications of the tabular data and how it relates to the linear equation.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify the relationships between the variables and equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding manipulating the equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or solutions.

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Participants note that the drag is proportional to the square of the velocity, and there are references to constraints imposed by the problem setup and the teacher's instructions regarding finding a linear relationship between acceleration and velocity.

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This is probably a maths question which I am struggling with
the question states that
drag is proportional to the square of the velocity
D = kv^2

And there is a linear relationship between the square of the velocity and the acceleration
dv/dt = - 0.0154 v^2 + 0.402827

assume the mass of the object is 700 kg

F = ma
F = 700 dv/dt
and the force = propulsion- drag = P - D
P - D = 700 dv/dt
dv/ dt = ( P - D) / 700

with this data below how do i find the drag and the propulsion

v^2 (m/s)__________( dv/dt) , ms/s/s
0.6241_____________0.39
5.0176_____________0.32
11.2225____________0.23
16.81______________0.15
20.7025____________0.09
23.2324____________0.05
I tried putting the linear equation in the Newton second law
dv/ dt = ( P - D) / 700
dv/dt = - 0.0154 v^2 + 0.402827
so , ( P - D) / 700 = - 0.0154 v^2 + 0.402827
but how do i find the P and D ?
 
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Are the tabular data simply what you can get from the linear equation? I have tried two rows, and they fit. So I think they can be ignored.

With ( P - D) / 700 = - 0.0154 v^2 + 0.402827, what do you get by multiplying both sides by 700? What form must the drag term have? What else is there?
 
when multiply both sides with 700 it becomes
P-D = 281.979 - 10.78v^2
well since D = kv^2
it becomes

P - kv^2 = 281.979 - 10.78v^2
 
my teacher kept mentioning the drag is proportion to the velocity , and she told us to find the linear relationship between acceleration and the velocity, and we can find the constant of the drag. but i don't know what she meant by that
 
The drag is proportional to the SQUARE of the velocity, at least in this problem. Using the final equation you got, can you determine P and k?
 
i don't know how
 
Set v = 0. What do you get?
 

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