Velocity in the horizontal and vertical direction

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The problem involves determining Santa's velocity in both horizontal and vertical directions as he falls from a roof to the snow below. The scenario includes details about the roof's pitch, Santa's weight, and the height of the snow, creating a context for analyzing projectile motion and energy conservation principles.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss using energy methods to relate potential energy to kinetic energy for calculating velocities. There is mention of projectile motion equations to determine time and final velocities. Some participants question how to account for the depth of the snow when calculating vertical distance.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with various approaches being explored, including energy methods and kinematic equations. Participants are engaging with the problem by considering different aspects of the motion and questioning how to accurately set up the equations based on the given parameters.

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There is some uncertainty regarding the correct vertical distance to use in calculations due to the depth of the snow and the height of Santa's center of mass. Participants are navigating these constraints while trying to apply the relevant physics concepts.

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Santa is in trouble. His reindeer just made a rough crosswind landing on the snow covered apex of this gingerbread house. Upon impact the hitch breaks free and the reindeer shoot skyward leaving Santa teetering on the very peak. As he slightly shifts the sleigh tilts forward. Remembering his physics, Santa quickly surveys his predicament. He weighs 256 pounds, his center of mass is located 4 feet vertically above the roof, his skis are waxed, the roof has a 1-in-5 pitch, the side of the house is 12 feet high, the width of the house is 40 feet from the left edge to the right roof edge and the snow on the ground is 5 feet deep.

Determine Santa's velocity in both the horizontal and vertical direction when he hits the snow. (Hint: make sure you use the vertical distance from the center of mass of santa to the top of the snow)

in previous questions i found the forward velocity as soon as he leaves the roof (Vx)= 17.53 ft/sec
and the downward velocity as soon as he leaves the roof (Vy)= 3.51 ft/sec

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The angle the roof makes with the horizontal is tan A=1/5 or about 11 degrees. The distance from the roof peak to the side wall is 20 feet (40/2). Because the roof pitch is 1:5 the height of the peak above the side wall is 4 feet. Santa's center of mass is 4 feet above the peak. Santa is going to fall 8 feet before he slides off the roof. Using energy methods his PE is converted to KE. His velocity as the roof is v=sqrt(2gh). You know the roof angle so you can find the Vx and Vy components of V.

Now you have a projectile problem with Santa falling 12 feet in the negative Y direction (assuming the snow is at Y=0. You know Y=Vyt-.5g*T^2. You know Y and Vy (watch signs) solve for t. The new Vy, when he hits the snow) is Vy=Vy0-g*t. Vx doesn't change.
 
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The angle the roof makes with the horizontal is tan A=1/5 or about 11 degrees. The distance from the roof peak to the side wall is 20 feet (40/2). Because the roof pitch is 1:5 the height of the peak above the side wall is 4 feet. Santa's center of mass is 4 feet above the peak. Santa is going to fall 8 feet before he slides off the roof. Using energy methods his PE is converted to KE. His velocity as the roof is v=sqrt(2gh). You know the roof angle so you can find the Vx and Vy components of V.

Now you have a projectile problem with Santa falling 12 feet in the negative Y direction (assuming the snow is at Y=0. You know Y=Vyt-.5g*T^2. You know Y and Vy (watch signs) solve for t. The new Vy, when he hits the snow) is Vy=Vy0-g*t. Vx doesn't change.

i thought of using the equation for time as: dy= Viyt + (ayt^2)/2
with ay: 32 ft/sec^2

i just didnt know what to put for distance in the y. the snow is 5 feet deep so do i subtract 5 from the 12 feet? or do i add 4 feet to the 12 feet and then subtract 5?

and then once i got the time i could solve for the velocity in the x and y with these formulas:
Vfx@___sec = Vix + axt=
Vfy@___sec= Viy+ayt=
 
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Part 1: Santa's center of gravity falls 8 feet to the edge of the roof. Use energy methods to find Vx at Vy at the edge o fthe roof.

Part 2: Now Santa is going to fall 7 feet to the snow (12-5) so that is Y.

Y=Vy*t-.5g*t^2 where Vy is found above, solve for t

To find the new Vy(final)=Vy(original)-g*t this is the velocity in the Y direction when santa hits the snow. Vx is the same as at the edge of the roof.
 

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