Velocity of a spacecraft at relativistic speed

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the maximum speed of a cargo ship being accelerated by a spacetug under a constant force, while considering relativistic effects over a distance of 4.3 light years. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to approach the problem, particularly due to a lack of prior instruction on relativity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relevance of relativistic effects and the importance of understanding who is measuring various quantities such as time and distance. There is mention of the "relativistic rocket" concept as a potential resource for understanding the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance by suggesting resources and acknowledging the complexity of the problem. There is recognition of the original poster's challenges and the need for further exploration of relativistic principles.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes that their textbook lacks sufficient information on relativity, and they have not covered these concepts in class. There is a concern about the assumptions related to measurements being taken by stationary observers versus travelers.

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Homework Statement


The closest star system is about 4.3 light years away from Earth. A spacetug is able to move a cargo ship at a constant force of g=9.8N/kg times the mass of the cargo ship for many years. Starting from rest, speed up the cargo ship until you're halfway to the nearest stars, then pull back with the same force to slow the ship down to rest. Determine the maximum speed attained and how many Earth years the trip there takes.

Homework Equations


I'm not sure. I really just need help starting it. We haven't really gone over relativity, and my teacher is giving this project as a challenge. I'm not sure if it's easier than I'm making it, but our book doesn't really have much pertinent information on the subject except that we need to use the relativistic position update equation to solve it. We haven't done any relativity problems in class and I'd just love a push in the right direction!

The Attempt at a Solution


Normally, I'd start with the kinematic equations, but here they end up with wrong answers because they don't account for relativity. Please help me get started! Thanks!
 
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You got yourself a tough teacher if he isn't going to teach you relativity before giving you relativity problems. Ever hear of the relativistic rocket? There should be many threads about it here on PF.

Btw, it's not easier than you are making it to be, unless I'm missing something myself ?:)
 
It may depend on who is doing all the measurements of time, mass, force, distance and velocity. If they are all done by the stationary observer, there may not be a problem. It does specify Earth years and is careful to define the force so that mass does not matter. If some of the values are as measured by the traveler, it is more complicated.
 
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It may depend on who is doing all the measurements of time, mass, force, distance and velocity. If they are all done by the stationary observer, there may not be a problem. It does specify Earth years and is careful to define the force so that mass does not matter. If some of the values are as measured by the traveler, it is more complicated.
It is looking for measurements from a stationary observer I believe.
 
Comeback City said:
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You got yourself a tough teacher if he isn't going to teach you relativity before giving you relativity problems. Ever hear of the relativistic rocket? There should be many threads about it here on PF.

Btw, it's not easier than you are making it to be, unless I'm missing something myself ?:)
I'll go look at the relativistic rocket! I appreciate the help! It's definitely not the easiest class I've ever taken. There's a lot of learning on my own. I had some physics in high school, but this is my intro to physics as a major in University. It seems like this program is going to be intense. It'll be good for me in the long run though.
 

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