Velocity of center of mass of spinning disk

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The problem involves a solid uniform disk on a frictionless surface, where a force is applied via a string wrapped around its rim. The objective is to determine the speed of the center of mass after the disk has moved a specified distance.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to apply rotational dynamics and Newton's second law to find the acceleration and subsequently the speed of the center of mass. Some participants question the separation of translational and rotational motion, while others suggest focusing on the net force applied through the string.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of Newton's second law in the context of the problem. Some have provided alternative calculations for acceleration and speed, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or outcome yet.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the normal force and gravitational force being perpendicular to the movement, which leads to confusion regarding their contributions to the motion. The original poster expresses frustration over the calculations and understanding of the forces involved.

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A solid uniform disk of mass 19.0 kg and radius 70.0 cm (.7 m) is at rest FLAT on a frictionless surface. A string is wrapped around the rim of the disk and a constant force of 35.0 N is applied to the string. The string does not slip on the rim. The string is being pulled. When the disk has moved a distance of 6 m, what is the speed of the center of mass?



Relevant equations (I think...):
I=1/2MR^2
FR=Iα
α=a/R


So far, I have:
FR=Iα
FR=1/2MR^2(a/R)
F=1/2Ma
a=2*F/M=3.33333 m/s^2

and then,
v^2=2*a*6m, since initial velocity is 0.
v=7.26 m/s

But this is wrong, and I'm not sure why. Please help!
 
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Newton's second law holds for translational motion, even if the net force results in a torque. The angular and linear components can be dealt with separately when they are not "coupled" via some friction or other mechanical mechanism (like a rolling object or a pulley and string).
 
Thank you. I'm not sure how I would use Newton's Second Law, due to the fact that the normal force and mg are perpendicular to the movement and therefore not contributing to the velocity.

I'm so frustrated :)
 
atlarge said:
Thank you. I'm not sure how I would use Newton's Second Law, due to the fact that the normal force and mg are perpendicular to the movement and therefore not contributing to the velocity.

I'm so frustrated :)

mg and the normal force are equal and opposite, so their contribution vanishes. You only have to deal with the force applied via the string.
 
OH, thank you gneill!

Answer is:

F=ma
35N=(21kg)a
a=1.667 m/s^2

v^2=0 + 2(1.667)(7.9), 0 being the initial velocity
v=5.1 m/s
 

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