Verification: Hanging mass on cylinder. Moment of inertia

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a hanging mass (a bucket of water) and a solid cylinder, focusing on concepts of tension, force, and moment of inertia in rotational dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculations of tension and forces acting on the system, with one participant questioning the relevance of the cylinder's radius in solving the problem. Others explore whether the radius is necessary for certain calculations, particularly regarding moment of inertia.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided feedback on the original poster's calculations, while others are seeking clarification on the role of the cylinder's radius in the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the problem's requirements.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention uncertainty regarding specific calculations and the relevance of certain parameters, such as the radius of the cylinder, suggesting that there may be multiple ways to approach the problem.

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Homework Statement


A 15.0 kg bucket of water is suspended by a very light rope wrapped around a solid cylinder 0.300 m in diameter with a mass of 12.0 kg. The cylinder pivots on a frictionless axle through its centre. The bucket is released from rest at the top of a well and falls 10.0 m to the water.
a) What is the tension in the rope while the bucket is falling? my answer: 42.15N
b) With what speed does the bucket strike the water? my answer: 11.8m/s
c) What is the time of the fall? my answer: 1.69s
d) While the bucket is falling, what is the force exerted on the cylinder by the axle: my answer: 159.87N this is the one that i am really unsure of (and a))

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solved but unsure

The Attempt at a Solution



could someone who knows what there doing please check my answers, i wouldn't ask if it wasn't important.. thanks in advance.
 
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It looks good. How did you get the force of the axle?

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actually that part was wrong, it is actually just F=ma and it turns out to be 105N i hope. I've actually been getting a lot of help from someone else on PF
 
Hi, just a quick question. why do they give the radius of the cylinder if it is not needed, is there a way to solve these problems that does require the radius?
I have another very similar problem to this that i didnt use the radius for either
 
pat666 said:
Hi, just a quick question. why do they give the radius of the cylinder if it is not needed, is there a way to solve these problems that does require the radius?
I have another very similar problem to this that i didnt use the radius for either

They could be giving you extra info for you to sift through and see what's relevant and what's not.
 
pat666 said:
Hi, just a quick question. why do they give the radius of the cylinder if it is not needed, is there a way to solve these problems that does require the radius?
I have another very similar problem to this that i didnt use the radius for either
If the problem gave you a pulley with a moment of inertia that cannot be calculated from a formula, then you do need the radius. However, the method is the same.
 

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