Verification of the existence of a scientific article

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The discussion revolves around the verification of the existence of a scientific article related to the behavior of metals in high spin states under large magnetic fields, specifically referencing claims about energy transfer without loss. Participants explore the implications of the claims and seek sources or related literature.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) seeks to verify an article based on a specific claim about high spin states and energy transfer in metals.
  • Some participants question the OP's motivation for finding the article, suggesting there may be additional background information not disclosed.
  • Concerns are raised about potential scams related to pseudoscience, with some participants expressing skepticism about the claims made in the initial text.
  • A participant provides a link to a website containing similar wording but questions whether it leads to the original 1960's paper.
  • Another participant discusses the historical context of superconductivity, noting that it was discovered in 1911 and not in the 1960s, challenging the accuracy of the OP's claim.
  • References to the Nuclear Overhauser Effect are made, with one participant suggesting it is related but lacks details about high-spin states induced by magnetic fields.
  • Links to other resources are shared, including a book and a Wikipedia page on spin crossover, which may provide relevant context or information.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of the claims made in the original text, with some questioning the existence of the article and others providing potential leads. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on the existence or details of the article in question.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the information provided, including missing assumptions about the claims and the need for clearer definitions of terms like "high spin state" and "energy transfer." The discussion also highlights the complexity of the topic and the potential for misunderstanding in the context of scientific literature.

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I have spent a lot of time trying to verify the existence of an alleged scientific article but have not been able to.

The only info I have about the article is the following text:

Researchers working with large magnetic fields discovered in the 1960's that metals when induced into a high spin state (using fields of approximately 540,000 gauss) were capable of passing energy from one high spin atom to the next with no net loss of energy.

Maybe someone here is aware of this article and can provide the source.
 
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If that is all the info you have then why do you care to find it? There must surely be some relevant background information you have not mentioned.
 
kurros said:
If that is all the info you have then why do you care to find it? There must surely be some relevant background information you have not mentioned.

Call me paranoid, but based in the recent questions in this forum, I think that there is some scam going on, offering some incredible business oportunity based on pseudoscience. What i do not get is why is everyone asking in this forum, except if some keyword search is pointing here.
 
If that is all the info you have then why do you care to find it? There must surely be some relevant background information you have not mentioned.

I care to find this article, just based on that text, because of what it implies to me.

Call me paranoid, but based in the recent questions in this forum, I think that there is some scam going on, offering some incredible business opportunity based on pseudoscience. What i do not get is why is everyone asking in this forum, except if some keyword search is pointing here.

The implied information is important to me and it has nothing to do with business opportunities based on pseudoscience.


P.S. I would love to thank a PF Mentor...
 
To the OP.
Where did you get that paragraph? Knowing the origin might help
 
What do you actually want?

For what it's worth those words can be found here..

http://customers.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/hudson.htm

Researchers working with large magnetic fields discovered in the 1960's that metals when induced into a high spin state (using energies of approximately 540,000 gauss) were capable of passing energy from one high spin atom to the next with no net loss of energy! This was the discovery of superconductivity.

but do you want "the" 1960's paper?
 
Yes, the paper. That is not were i found it, but yes, the 1960's paper.
 
The website looks a bit confusing. However, some things I found (no paper from 1960):

Spin density wave at Wikipedia:
The existence of the SDW [spin-density wave] in Cr was first posited in 1960 by Albert Overhauser of Purdue. Cliff Shull of MIT won the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1994 for his experimental observation of the Cr SDW. The theory of CDWs [charge-density wave] was first put forth by Rudolf Peierls of Oxford University, who was trying to explain superconductivity.
Related: Overhauser effect: "The Nuclear Overhauser Effect (NOE) is the transfer of nuclear spin polarization from one nuclear spin population to another via cross-relaxation."

Passing spins around without loss of energy sounds like Spin superconductors.

Concerning the next statement on the website CWatters linked:
website said:
Superconductivity allows the conduction of energy through a resonance phenomenon. Unlike electrical conduction, energy can be passed from one superconductor to another with contact, without resistance and, therefore, with no net loss of energy.
This looks like superconducting tunnel junction, but is different from superconducting materials in general.

website said:
To create superconductivity in a potential superconductor, an external magnetic field must be applied to get the system going. Once the flow of energy is set in motion, however, it is only necessary to keep the conditions correct so that the material remains superconductive.
This is wrong.
This was the discovery of superconductivity.
And this part of the initial quote is wrong, too. Superconductivity was discovered in 1911 with mercury, and without any magnetic fields.
 
mfb, thank you for your analyses.

The Nuclear Overhauser Effect, is very close to the effect mentioned in the text, but it appears to lack the detail of a high-spin state induced by a magnetic field.

I found another link, related to the CWatters link, that appears to be closer to the article that i am looking for. This link,http://www.rexresearch.com/ormes/hudsnlec.htm, states:

This is a 1960's book that my Ph.D. studied at Iowa State University and it's actually an article about nuclear quadrupole moment and nuclear quadrupole moment spectroscopy. They actually find that by applying these 800,000 gauss magnetic fields that they could cause the nucleus to spin flip to the high-spin state. And then when they release these fields they read the resonance that comes out of the nucleus as the nucleus drops back down to the low spin state.
 
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