Stokes' Theorem Verification for Triangle with Given Vertices

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The discussion centers on verifying Stokes' theorem for the vector field F = [y^2, x^2, -x+z] around a triangle defined by the vertices (0,0,1), (1,0,1), and (1,1,1). The initial calculations showed that both the surface integral of curl F and the line integral around the triangle yielded zero, while the textbook answer was 1/3. A participant identified that the area of integration was incorrectly defined and pointed out that the integrand, 2(x-y), is positive over the correct triangular region. The conclusion is that the theorem was verified for a different curve, highlighting the importance of accurately defining the integration area.
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Homework Statement


Verify Stokes' theorem for the following:

F=[y^2, x^2, -x+z]

Around the triangle with vertices (0,0,1),(1,0,1),(1,1,1)

Homework Equations


\int\int_S(curlF)\cdot ndA=\int_C F\cdot r' ds

The Attempt at a Solution


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For the LHS:
curlF\cdot n=2x-2y
\int\int_S(curlF)\cdot ndA=\int_0^1 \int_0^{1-x}2x-2ydydx

This gives zero. Also integrating over the three curves of the triangle gives zero. However, the book's answer is 1/3. Any idea what the mistake is?
 
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c0der said:

Homework Statement


Verify Stokes' theorem for the following:

F=[y^2, x^2, -x+z]

Around the triangle with vertices (0,0,1),(1,0,1),(1,1,1)

Homework Equations


\int\int_S(curlF)\cdot ndA=\int_C F\cdot r' ds

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
For the LHS:
curlF\cdot n=2x-2y
\int\int_S(curlF)\cdot ndA=\int_0^1 \int_0^{1-x}2x-2ydydx

This gives zero. Also integrating over the three curves of the triangle gives zero. However, the book's answer is 1/3. Any idea what the mistake is?

First of all, the area of integration is wrong. The triangle is bounded by the line x = y, the x axis, and the line y = 1.

Second, in this area, the integrand is 2x - 2y = 2(x-y). For the entire area, this is positive (except for at the boundary x = y, where it is zero). The result must therefore be positive. Try drawing the points (in the x-y-plane, the z-coordinate is constant) on a piece of paper. In the region you have integrated over, the integrand is antisymmetric with respect to x=y and the the area is symmetric with respect to this and should therefore give a zero result.

In short, you have verified Stokes' theorem, but for a different curve.
 
Thank you, stupid me.
 
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