Vertical acceleration due to car going over speed bump

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The discussion revolves around calculating the vertical acceleration of a car as it goes over a speed bump that is one foot wide and four inches tall. The context includes considerations for forces involved in failure analysis rather than a traditional homework scenario.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the original poster's calculations, noting an unexpectedly high acceleration value of around 25g. Questions arise regarding the assumptions made, particularly the neglect of the car's shocks and the speed at which the car is traveling. Some participants suggest recalculating based on the radius derived from the bump's dimensions.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with various interpretations of the problem being explored. Some participants have provided insights into the design and characteristics of speed bumps, while others have shared calculations and considerations regarding vehicle dynamics. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive lines of inquiry have emerged.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of specific speed information and other parameters that could influence the calculations. The original poster has adjusted their assumptions about speed in response to earlier calculations, indicating an iterative approach to refining their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Find the vertical acceleration of a car going over a speed bump a foot wide and 4 inches tall.

Homework Equations


Acceleration = dv/dt

The Attempt at a Solution


http://imgur.com/55t2WCQI am getting an answer that is around 25*g
I know this is way too much.
neglecting the shocks on the car, what assumptions am I messing up that would allow me to do this problem correctly? This isn't homework, rather a small part of a larger project where I need the forces to do failure analysis.
 
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Homework Statement


Find the vertical acceleration of a car going over a speed bump a foot wide and 4 inches tall.

Homework Equations


Acceleration = dv/dt

The Attempt at a Solution


http://imgur.com/55t2WCQ


I am getting an answer that is around 25*g
I know this is way too much.
neglecting the shocks on the car, what assumptions am I messing up that would allow me to do this problem correctly? This isn't homework, rather a small part of a larger project where I need the forces to do failure analysis.
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Was that 20 mph speed given ?

Was anything else given, which you have not included here?
 

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Nothing was given other than the thing I am designing should be able to withstand the force of going over a speed bump. I originally had it at 30mph but my number was way higher so I lowered it hoping that would be my problem. I looked up online the higher end dimensions of a speed bump and got a smaller width of 1 foot and a height of no more than 4 inches. Thanks for the reply.
 
Yes, but speed bumps and speed humps are different. Also I was assuming I should use the bump where the force would be greatest. maybe I was going too high with 4'' but http://www.innoplast.com/sbs6.html was closer to what I was imagining going over.
 
r = (4² + ¼*12²)/2*4 =6.5
Yes, but I see naught where you are going with this?
 
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r = (4² + ¼*12²)/2*4 =6.5
Yes, but I see naught where you are going with this?

I was going to work out the acceleration another way but the small radius caught my eye. If curved as per the original drawing it would have very steep sides - perhaps not as bad as a vertical kerb but still.
 
Article here suggests humps are typically designed to reduce speeds to 15mph where as bumps target around 5mph.

http://www.dmgov.org/Departments/Engineering/PDF/FAQ9_Speed_Bumps_and_Humps.pdf

Speed bumps, on the other hand, have a more abrupt design. They consist of a portion of raised pavement, but because of their abruptness their use is very restricted. In fact, most speed bumps are found in parking lots and or along private roadways. Their height is typically between three and six inches, and they are usually only one to three feet long. Speed bumps produce substantial driver discomfort, damage to the vehicle suspension, and/or loss of control if encountered at too high a speed. This is one reason speed bumps are not used on public roadways. In general, vehicles must slow to about five miles per hour or less for a speed bump (compared to 15 mph for a speed hump).
 
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Thanks. This has been helpful.
 
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Fixed it and I got 5.4g as my maximum acceleration vertical. Thanks again.
 

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Fixed it and I got 5.4g as my maximum acceleration vertical.
Sure, but acceleration of what? The tyres, certainly, but a bit less for the wheel as a whole and much less for the vehicle as a whole.
Also, passenger discomfort is not just a matter of peak acceleration. It's a compound oscillator problem. With a short bump, a low speed can produce a much larger amplitude rise in the vehicle than a higher speed.
 

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