Vertically launched rocket problem with integration

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The problem involves determining the height of a vertically launched rocket as a function of time, considering a constant gravitational field and the rocket's changing mass due to fuel consumption. The original poster presents a differential equation related to the rocket's motion and attempts to derive a specific height function.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to integrate a differential equation but struggles to incorporate a specific term in their height function. They express uncertainty about the integration process and seek clarification on obtaining a missing term.
  • Some participants question the integration steps and suggest that a constant of integration may be overlooked. They also highlight the importance of treating mass as a function of time during integration.

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Contextual Notes

Participants note that the fuel burn rate is assumed to be constant, which impacts the integration approach. There is also mention of initial conditions that need to be considered in the integration process.

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Homework Statement


Find the Rockets height as a function of time
It is in a constant field g. u refers to the exhaust speed and M is the initial mass.
Starts from rest. and is single stage.

Homework Equations


1) m * dv/dt= -dm/dt * u-mg

2)Show that height as t is: y(t)= u*t- 1/2*g*t^2- u*t*ln(M/m)

The Attempt at a Solution


Ok, i arrived at a function very similar to the the height but, i cannot seem to get the u*t term in the function. i get y(t)= - 1/2*g*t^2- u*t*ln(M/m)
where do i get the u*t term from? i feel like i am so close to the answer but so far away..
I integrated 1) and arrived at V(t)= u*ln(M/m)-g*t
 
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Hi, I did look at this earlier but got stuck with your first integration. It is likely there is a constant of integration you are missing so if you are still stuck and want to, please can you show me your steps to integrate 1) and then I will see if I can help?

Cheers
 
I'm pretty sure you're forgetting that mass is a function of time, so your integration of u*ln(M/m(t))*dt isn't as simple as you had hoped...

Edit:
Hint: Do the integration w.r.t. mass, and not time. The key here is that (I'm assuming) the fuel burn rate is constant, so dm/dt = -c, where c is some constant. Use that to replace dt with -dm/c. Also, don't forget to solve for the constant of integration using the initial condition m(0) = M.
 
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