Very basic question about cohomology.

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

This discussion focuses on the practical applications of cohomology theory, particularly in relation to homology and its geometric interpretations. Participants emphasize that while cohomology may seem abstract, it is essential in various mathematical and physical contexts, such as Stokes' theorem and De Rham cohomology. The cup product structure of cohomology groups provides deeper insights into the topology of spaces, distinguishing them even when homology groups are identical. Techniques like the Mayer-Vietoris sequence are highlighted as effective methods for computing cohomology groups.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic cohomology theory and definitions
  • Familiarity with homology groups and their geometric interpretations
  • Knowledge of Stokes' theorem and De Rham cohomology
  • Concept of cup products in algebraic topology
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the Mayer-Vietoris sequence for computing cohomology groups
  • Explore the implications of Stokes' theorem in various applications
  • Investigate the properties of cup products in cohomology
  • Learn about the relationship between cohomology classes and manifold topology
USEFUL FOR

Mathematicians, physicists, and students of topology who are interested in the applications and computations of cohomology theory, particularly in relation to geometric and algebraic structures.

lichen1983312
Messages
85
Reaction score
2
I am self leaning some basic cohomology theory and I managed to go through from the definition to the universal coefficient theorem. But I don't think I get the main point of this theory, I like to ask this questions:
Is such an abstract theory practical?

I would say that homology is practical, because the chain groups could be built on the basis of maps from simplexes to the space, which is intuitive and easy to operate. Since the boundary operator also has clear geometric meaning, at least in theory one can just write down the chain group and follow a well defined procedure to compute the homology group.

For the cochain groups ##C_n^ * = Hom({C_n},G)## , the elements are just homomorphisms. This construction is too abstract that I cannot see what is this group look like and how is cohomology gorup ##\ker /im## computed. If one cannot easily do these things, why would we even need this theory ?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
Cohomology groups have a natural multiplication called the cup product that turns them into a graded algebra. These products give more information about a space than the homology groups. There are even examples of spaces with identical homology (with any coefficients) but whose cup product structure is not the same. This is one reason why cohomology is important.
 
Last edited:
For oriented compact manifolds, integer cohomology classes can be expressed as intersections of cycles of complementary dimension. If you think of trying to completely separate two submanifolds of complementary dimension then the intersection number (the oriented count of the number of intersection points) is an obstruction to being able to do this. If you ignore the orientation then you get a cohomology class with ##Z_2## coefficients. This tells you something about the topology of the manifold.
 
Last edited:
lavinia said:
For oriented compact manifolds, integer cohomology classes can be expressed as intersections of cycles of complementary dimension. If you think of trying to completely separate two submanifolds of complementary dimension then the intersection number (the oriented count of the number of intersection points) is an obstruction to being able to do this. If you ignore the orientation then you get a cohomology class with ##Z_2## coefficients. This tells you something about the topology of the manifold.
Thanks very much, I need time to understand all this. But before that, given a space, is there a general procedure to find the co-chain group or cohomology group?
 
lichen1983312 said:
Thanks very much, I need time to understand all this. But before that, given a space, is there a general procedure to find the co-chain group or cohomology group?

Not that I have seen. One technique that often works is to divide the space up into subspaces whose cohomology is easy and then fit the pieces together. This can often be done with a Mayer-Vietoris sequence. This sequence can be used for both homology and cohomology.
 
lichen1983312 said:
Thanks very much, I need time to understand all this. But before that, given a space, is there a general procedure to find the co-chain group or cohomology group?
A simple case is the torus. Its first homology group is generated by two orthogonal circles that intersect in a single point. These circles can be taken to be the equator of the torus and the orthogonal circle that cycles through the hole. Intersecting homology classes with either one of the circles and counting the number of intersection points (with orientation) produces a homomorphsim of the first homology group into the integers.

The homomorphism corresponding to one of the circles maps the homology class of that circle to zero and the homology class of the orthogonal circle to 1. The interesting thing to see is that the intersection count is always the same for any representative of either homology class as long as the intersection is transversal - that is: as long as the two curves cross over each other at each intersection point.

For a homomorphisminto into ##Z_{2}## assign 1 if the number of intersections is odd and 0 if the number of intersections is even. Note for instance that if one distorts one of the two orthogonal circles so that it intersects the other in more than one point, an even number of new intersection points is created so the mod 2 count is unchanged. The oriented count is also unchanged.
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
5K
  • Poll Poll
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
5K
  • Poll Poll
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
8K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
6K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
6K
  • Poll Poll
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
5K
  • Sticky
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
12K
  • · Replies 58 ·
2
Replies
58
Views
5K