Vibration generated from a specially design cam

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The discussion revolves around measuring the stress on human feet while standing on a vibrating platform driven by a cam mechanism. Participants explore the calculations involved in determining the force and stress experienced by the feet due to the vibrations generated by the cam's motion.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks help in calculating the force/stress on feet while standing on a vibrating platform driven by a cam.
  • Another participant suggests assuming a sinusoidal cam profile and provides a method for calculating acceleration and stress based on mass and area of contact.
  • A question is raised regarding the definition of displacement in the context of the cam's motion.
  • Further clarification is provided on the sinusoidal motion of the cam and its maximum amplitude, along with the corresponding acceleration formula.
  • A participant inquires whether the total stress on the feet would remain the same if the platform is supported by four identical cams, leading to a discussion about the distribution of force among the cams.
  • It is noted that under certain assumptions of rigidity, the number of cams does not affect the force on the feet, but the inherent softness of the feet introduces structural damping that complicates the analysis.
  • Concerns are raised about the phase shift between the displacement of the feet and the cam due to the damping effect of the feet.
  • A participant emphasizes the focus on the skeletal system rather than soft tissue, while another warns to consider the skin and muscle as a spring/damper system in the analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the effects of the number of cams and the damping characteristics of the feet, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these factors on stress calculations.

Contextual Notes

Assumptions about the rigidity of the cams and floor, as well as the strength of the motor, are critical to the discussion. The impact of structural damping and phase shifts introduces additional complexity that is not fully quantified.

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Hi all,

I have a question, I am trying to do to measure the stress on human feet while standing on a vibrating platform. The platform was placed on top of a cam and the cam was driven by a motor. I know most of the parameter, i.e. frequency, speed, acceleration but how can i calculate the force/stress?

Pls help.
 
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As a quick hand-esque calculation you could...

Assume a sinusodial cam profile. Take two derivatives to get acceleration. Should be negative displacement times frequency squared. Multiply that by the mass of the person and assume that is the force applied to the feet.

Divide by area of contact of the feet for some sort of normal stress.
 
minger said:
As a quick hand-esque calculation you could...

Assume a sinusodial cam profile. Take two derivatives to get acceleration. Should be negative displacement times frequency squared. Multiply that by the mass of the person and assume that is the force applied to the feet.

Divide by area of contact of the feet for some sort of normal stress.


What is the displacement you mention? the distance the cam lifting the plate? Thank you for the reply.
 
Yes. Using that assumption, your cam will be sinusodial with a certain maximum amplitude described by
[tex] x = A\sin(\omega t)[/tex]
Where A is some maximum amplitude (think of maximum runout of the cam). The acceleration is then:
[tex] \ddot{x} = -\omega^2 A \sin(\omega t)[/tex]
 
minger said:
Yes. Using that assumption, your cam will be sinusodial with a certain maximum amplitude described by
[tex] x = A\sin(\omega t)[/tex]
Where A is some maximum amplitude (think of maximum runout of the cam). The acceleration is then:
[tex] \ddot{x} = -\omega^2 A \sin(\omega t)[/tex]

Hi Minger,

Thanks a lot for the reply. One more question, if the platform is placed on top of 4 identical cam, then the total stress on the feet will still the same, right?

that mean the force generated by each of the cam will need to divided by 4?
 
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Yes yes, In this assumption we're guessing that both the cams and floor are completely rigid, and the motor powering it is infinitely strong. Thus, the force on the feet is due to acceleration. So, it does not matter if there are one or 100 cams driving it.

Now something to think about. The inherent "softness" of the feet will cause a type of structural damping in your problem. This will then cause a phase shift in the displacement of the feet to the displacement of the cam. As such, there will be an impact at bottom dead center when the cam starts to move up but the feet are still moving down. Quantifying this would be quite difficult at best.

If you are assuming low frequencies then you can assume that the feet and cams stay relatively well in phase though.
 
minger said:
Yes yes, In this assumption we're guessing that both the cams and floor are completely rigid, and the motor powering it is infinitely strong. Thus, the force on the feet is due to acceleration. So, it does not matter if there are one or 100 cams driving it.

Now something to think about. The inherent "softness" of the feet will cause a type of structural damping in your problem. This will then cause a phase shift in the displacement of the feet to the displacement of the cam. As such, there will be an impact at bottom dead center when the cam starts to move up but the feet are still moving down. Quantifying this would be quite difficult at best.

If you are assuming low frequencies then you can assume that the feet and cams stay relatively well in phase though.

Well, Thank you for the suggestion. Actually, I am looking at the skeletal system (metatarsal). not the soft tissure (muscle). it is very good to have you answer my question.

Han
 
Right, but the skin and muscle will act as a spring/damper system. Just take your results with quite a grain of salt and do plenty of research.
 

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