Vibrational frequency of diatomic molecule

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The discussion revolves around estimating the vibrational frequency of a diatomic nitrogen molecule using specific heat data. Participants are exploring the relationship between molecular vibrations and thermodynamic properties.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants express difficulty in attempting a solution, while others suggest modeling the diatomic molecule as two masses connected by a spring. There is mention of using the spring constant related to bond strength and mass to express vibrational frequency.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the quantum nature of molecular vibrations and how temperature affects specific heat. There is no clear consensus yet, but several lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the challenge of connecting specific heat data to vibrational frequency and the implications of quantum effects on vibrational modes. The discussion includes references to temperature ranges affecting molecular behavior.

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Homework Statement


Using specific heat data for a nitrogen molecule, estimate then vibrational frequency of the diatomic molecule



Homework Equations


C= 3N_a k = 3R


The Attempt at a Solution


unable to attempt a solution
 
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This question interests me. However I am no help with the solution. I would love if someone could answer this question
 
thank you for your input shamone. I would also love to find out the answer
 
I am surprised no one has answered. It looks like a straightforward answer but I just cannot come up with a solution, i wish i was smarter
 
bull0sees said:

Homework Statement


Using specific heat data for a nitrogen molecule, estimate then vibrational frequency of the diatomic molecule

Homework Equations


C= 3N_a k = 3R

The Attempt at a Solution


unable to attempt a solution
You could start by treating the diatomic molecule as two masses joined by a spring with a certain spring constant. (this may be correct only for small vibrations). You can express the frequency of vibration using the "spring constant", which is a function of the bond strength, and the mass of the N atom. The trick is to find the "spring constant" from the specific heat. I'll have to think about that one.

AM
 
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I think I understand the problem. The N2 molecule acts as a harmonic oscillator at a frequency determined by the strength of the bond between the two N atoms and the mass of the N atom. But due to quantum effects, it cannot vibrate at any energy. Its modes of vibration are quantized:

E_{vib} = (n + 1/2)h\nu

At low energies (low temperature < 500K) the energy of vibration is h\nu/2 (n=0). The addition of thermal energy is not sufficient to allow many molecules to reach the next energy level (n=1) which is 3h\nu/2 (ie the number of molecules in the Boltzmann distribution for that temperature with that amount of energy).

However, as T increases the number of molecules able to acquire additional vibrational energy ie. to jump from h\nu/2 \text{ to } 3h\nu/2 increases so the specific heat starts increasing. At about 6000 K the specific heat, Cv reaches 3.5R. This means that the addition of any amount of thermal energy adds vibrational energy to the molecules which, I think, means many of the higher n levels are excited.

That should help you figure out the frequency \nu. From that you could figure out the force holding the atoms together, too.

AM
 

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