Vibrational Motion - Calculating Mean Square Displacement

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The discussion focuses on calculating the mean square displacement (MSD) of a particle from its equilibrium position using the integral equation ∫ from -∞ to +∞ of Nv² * Hv(y) * e^(-y²) dy. Participants emphasize the importance of applying recursion relations for Hermite polynomials, specifically noting that odd functions integrated over symmetrical ranges yield zero. The conversation highlights the relationship between variables such as velocity (v), mass (m), spring constant (kf), and reduced Planck's constant (ħ) in the context of the parameter α. A deeper understanding of Hermite polynomials is essential for accurate calculations.

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  • Understanding of mean square displacement (MSD) in statistical mechanics
  • Familiarity with Hermite polynomials and their properties
  • Knowledge of integral calculus, particularly Gaussian integrals
  • Basic concepts of quantum mechanics, including the significance of reduced Planck's constant (ħ)
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  • Review recursion relations and their applications in solving polynomial equations
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Homework Statement


Calculate the mean square displacement x2 of the particle from its
equilibrium position.

Homework Equations


∫ from -[itex]\infty[/itex] to +[itex]\infty[/itex] of Nv2 * Hv(y) * e-y^2 dy

Since y=x/[itex]\alpha[/itex], [itex]\alpha[/itex]dy=dx

yHv = vHv-1 + (1/2)Hv+1

The Attempt at a Solution


https://www.dropbox.com/s/uiqbgzjjlqnnqwk/2014-02-14%2022.23.41.jpg

What is boxed is where I distributed everything. That looked horrible so I applied the recursion relation once. I believe the last integral goes to zero. Integrating an odd function over a symmetrical range would be zero. But then everything would be zero and that's just wrong. There should be a relationship between v and m and kf and hbar from [itex]\alpha[/itex]. I apologize, but please explain the math as simple as possible. The math is the issue, not really the concept.

EDIT: Should I apply the recursion relation once more in the integral as it has yHv?
 
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I don't know that much about Hermite polynomials to judge your calculations but what I know is that they are alternating in being odd and even.In fact even numbered ones are even and odd numbered ones are odd.
Take this into account when calculating the integral!
 

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