Vibrations and Waves: Mass on Incline problem

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The problem involves a mass on an inclined plane supported by a spring, which follows Hooke's Law. The mass is set to oscillate after being displaced from its equilibrium position, and the task includes calculating the spring constant and the oscillation frequency.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to determine the spring constant by finding the gravitational force component acting along the incline. They express uncertainty about how to extract numerical values from the provided graph. Other participants suggest methods to calculate the sine of the angle based on the geometry of the incline.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing calculations and clarifying concepts. Some have provided numerical values for the lengths involved and have discussed the calculation of sine theta. There is a collaborative effort to guide the original poster through the process without reaching a final solution.

Contextual Notes

The problem includes specific values for mass and spring lengths, but there is an ongoing discussion about how to interpret the graph and derive necessary trigonometric values. The original poster expresses a need for guidance on starting the calculations.

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Homework Statement


A spring, of negligible mass and which obeys Hooke's Law, supports a mass M on an incline which has negligible friction. The figure below shows the system with mass M in its equilibrium position. The spring is attached to a fixed support at P. The spring in its relaxed state is also illustrated.
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a) Mass M has a value of 245 g. Calculate k, the spring constant.

b) The mass oscillates when given a small displacement from its equilibrium position along the incline. Calculate the oscillation frequency.

2. The attempt at a solution

I know that I need to find the component of the acceleration due to gravity along the inclined plane. From the graph I can find the sinθ. Then find the force which pulls the spring down. Find the extension of the spring and then k.
But I don't know how to get started (no ideas how to get numbers on the graph). Please be a guider! Thanks!
 
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Length of the unstretched spring is 40 cm.
Length of the stretched spring is 50*sqrt(2) cm.
 
rl.bhat said:
Length of the unstretched spring is 40 cm.
Length of the stretched spring is 50*sqrt(2) cm.
Thanks!
So, I got the length of the stretched spring is 70.7 cm.
In order to find k, I need to find F.
F = -mgsin(theta)
then I need to find sin(theta) first.
Could u let me know how to find sin(theta)?
 
sinθ = opposite side/ hypotenuse.
From the graph find these values.
 
Hypotenuse = sqrt[60^2+60^2] = sqrt7200 = 84.85
Sin(theta) = 60/84.85 = 0.707;
F = -1.700 N. Correct?
 
Got it all. Thanks so much rl.bhat ;)
 

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