Visualizing a Cone with Constant Altitude and Variable Radius

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The problem involves a conical pile of sand where the altitude is equal to the radius. The original poster seeks to determine the rate at which sand is leaking out of the container as the height of the pile increases at a specific rate.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the geometric interpretation of the problem, questioning whether a cone with equal height and radius could be considered hemispherical. Some engage in mathematical reasoning by differentiating the volume formula for a cone.

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The discussion is ongoing with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have provided mathematical approaches, while others are focused on clarifying the geometric properties of the shape in question.

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There appears to be some confusion regarding the shape of the pile, with differing opinions on whether it is a cone or a hemisphere. The original poster's question may lack certain details that could clarify the scenario.

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Hi, I've tried this too many ways and i can't seem to figure it out. the question is:
As sand leaks out of a hole in a container, it forms a conical pile whose altitude is always the same as its radius. If the height of the pile is increasing at a rate of 6in/min, find the rate at which the sand is leaking out when the altitude is ten inches.

It would be great help, if someone could help me. Thank you.
 
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if its height is the same as its radius its not conical is it? isn't it a hemisphere? once you do that, you will find that the radius is increasing by 6 inches a minute. but i feel like there is something missing in your question.
 
It can't be hemispherical; it's saying that the height from the tip to the base is the same length as the radius. what i did was implicitly differentiated the volume formula for a cone and got dV/dt = 1/3*pi(2rh*dr/dt + r2*dh/dt)
 
Conical with base radius equal to the height...
r=h

V={{1} \over {3}} h A= {1 \over 3} h \pi h^2={\pi h^3 \over 3}

So now the question is, what is dV/dt given dh/dt?
 
Thank you. I got the same answer as i did before but in a different way so I know it's right.
 
if the height is the same as the radius...that sounds pretty spherical to me.
 
You seem to be having difficulty with visualization.
A sphere's height is twice its radius...but this isn't a sphere, or a hemisphere, it's a cone.

What does a cone look like?
Try drawing cones with various radius to altitude ratios. Post an image here if any of them looks like a sphere or hemisphere.
 
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