Voltage and Current lab report help

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The discussion revolves around a physics lab report focused on the relationship between voltage and current as described by Ohm's law. The original poster is comparing the behavior of a resistor and a light bulb, noting discrepancies in the expected graph shapes for nonohmic materials.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand why their graph for the light bulb differs from textbook representations, questioning the nature of the relationship between voltage and current for nonohmic materials.
  • Some participants provide insights into the temperature-dependent resistance of light bulbs, suggesting that resistance varies significantly between cold and operating states.
  • Others question the classification of the tungsten filament as nonohmic, proposing that it behaves as an ohmic material under certain conditions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the behavior of light bulbs in relation to Ohm's law. There is a mix of perspectives regarding the classification of materials and the implications for graphing voltage versus current.

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Participants are navigating assumptions about the definitions of ohmic and nonohmic materials, as well as the effects of temperature on resistance. There is mention of specific resistance values at different temperatures, which may influence the understanding of the graphs being discussed.

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I'm working on a basic physics lab report (not homework) and I'm trying to understand something better. We're establishing a relation between voltage and current using Ohms law. It goes as follows:

We apply different voltages to two materials and record the current in order to determine the resistance. The two materials are a resistor and a light bulb. My problem has occurred when graphing though.

I know that the relationship for an ohmic material is linear, therefore it's simply (1/R). This would be true for the resistor. The lightbulb however is a nonohmic material, therefore it's not a linear relationship.

The way my graph looks is not the same as in the book though. The book shows a graph which looks like an exponential function (x^2), approaches a vertical asymptote. My graph for the lightbulb though looks opposite (looks more like a sqrt function) and approaches a horizontal asymptote. When looking online I saw a V versus I graph for a filament and it looked the same as mine.

My question is, why is this? Why do I have a different graph than what the book shows for a nonohmic material, but I see other "filament" graphs look the same as mine.

Thanks.
 
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Light bulbs have a low resistance at room temp. This resistance increases as much as 15 times at operating temperature. So the resistance is proportional to the applied voltage.
From Wikipedia
"The cold resistance of tungsten-filament lamps is about 1/15 the hot-filament resistance when the lamp is operating. For example, a 100-watt, 120-volt lamp has a resistance of 144 ohms when lit, but the cold resistance is much lower (about 9.5 ohms)"
 
map19 said:
Light bulbs have a low resistance at room temp. This resistance increases as much as 15 times at operating temperature. So the resistance is proportional to the applied voltage.
From Wikipedia
"The cold resistance of tungsten-filament lamps is about 1/15 the hot-filament resistance when the lamp is operating. For example, a 100-watt, 120-volt lamp has a resistance of 144 ohms when lit, but the cold resistance is much lower (about 9.5 ohms)"

I understand that it's a nonlinear relationship because R=R0(1+\alpha(T-T0)). My confusion is why does the relationship differ for two, nonohmic materials. The book depicts a graph that shows a horizontal asymptote, yet my graph looks as though I have a vertical asymptote, as well does a graph from wikepedia for a filament depict the same thing. So why does one slope approach zero while the other slop approaches 1?
 
You say 'nonohmic' yet the tungsten filament is absolutely ohmic. It's just different resistance at different temperatures, as are most ohmic resistors. Since it's designed to work at about 1000C the temp variation is large. Note that the typical coiled filament, when unrolled is about 20inches long.
Varistors are non-ohmic. I suggest you google Wiki for a description.
 
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