Voltage at a Point: Calculate Electric Field

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field and potential at a point due to a charged surface, utilizing integrals and the concept of permittivity of free space. Participants are examining the setup and mathematical formulation of the problem.

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Eo = permittivity of free space

integral dV = (1/4(pi)Eo) integral (dQ)/a

Hopefully I have that formula correct.

so...

dQ = 2(pi)r(dr)(sigma)

Horizontal components cancel. So there will be a sin(theeta) term at the end of the integral.

sin(theeta) = z/a

and a = sqrt(z^2 + r^2)

and the integral will be between 0 and R

so the RHS becomes...

(1/4(pi)Eo) integral(0 -> R) (2(pi)r(dr)(sigma)/sqrt(z^2 + r^2)) * z/sqrt(z^2 + r^2)

Is this right? I have a feeling I have done something stupid.

Any help greatly appreciated.
 
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I think that's correct. Since they give you the final answer, you can see if you get it when you do the integral.
 
once you pull all the constants out the front you get...

(z(sigma)/2Eo) integral(0 -> R) r/(z^2 + r^2) (dr)

I'm pretty sure that doesn't give that answer.

Any suggestions?
 
Why are you talking about components?...The potential is a scalar not a vector(perhaps you are confusing it with the electric field :wink:)...Do you really have a [itex]\sin \theta[/itex] term in your integrand?:wink:
 
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Yerp, confusing sh*t like usual >.<

But that all works out now! Thanks a lot for pointing that out for me :)
 
gabbagabbahey said:
Why are you talking about components?...The potential is a scalar not a vector ...

Oops, I missed that little detail :blushing: Good save, ggh.
 

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