Voltage of a Capacitor using Kirchhoff's Loop Rule

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The discussion focuses on using Kirchhoff's Loop Rule to determine the voltages across five capacitors in a circuit. The user presents a set of equations derived from the loop rule and expresses difficulty in solving them, suspecting an error in their formulation. Questions arise about the nature of voltage loops and whether a loop can be created without returning to the original voltage source. Additionally, there is clarification on the number of equations needed, emphasizing the importance of identifying all loops in the circuit. The conversation highlights the complexity of circuit analysis and the necessity of systematic approaches to solve for unknowns.
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(Sorry, meant to post this in Introductory Physics Homework, if someone could please move it.)


1. Homework Statement


Use Kirchhoff's Loop Rule to solve for the voltages of the five capacitors in the network shown below.

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Homework Equations



For Capacitance, C = q/v
Kirchoff's juction law states that the total current into a junction must equal the total current leaving the function and that the sum of the potential differences around any loop or closed path is zero.

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The Attempt at a Solution


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My work can be found here: (Warning large image)

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The solution requires a system of equations to solve and I have:

1) ## -V_1 - V_5 - V_2 + V_A = 0##
2) ## -V_3 - V_5 - V_4 + V_A = 0##
3) ## -Q_5 + Q_4 + Q_2= 0##
4) ## -Q_1 - Q_3 + Q_5= 0##1 and 2 translate to:
1) ##\frac{-Q_1}{C_1} + \frac{-Q_5}{C_5} + \frac{-Q_2}{C_2} + 24 = 0##
2) ##\frac{-Q_3}{C_3} + \frac{-Q_5}{C_5} + \frac{-Q_4}{C_4} + 24 = 0##

It doesn't seem possible to solve those system of equations so I assume I messed up somewhere on creating the equations.Questions:

1) Can an open/close loop be created by the voltage connections on both sides of the capacitor, without necessarily returning to the original entrance of the voltage? Such as, if the voltage enters on the left side, can it leave through the right? I'm thinking enters from left (##V_L##) to ##C_1## through ##C_5## then ##C_4## then out the right (##V_R##) side, as an example?

2) How many equations would be needed for the system of equations? Does that depend on the number of junctions or the number of capacitors? So would I need 5 equations total before I can solve this?
 

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Hello V, welcome to PF :smile: !

You either want to reduce the number of unknowns or increase the number of equations.

As to the first: if you pick the voltage at two smart points you can described all the voltage differences
As to the second: there's more loops to be found than you now mention -- that should also answer your first question: think loops, not paths
 
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