Vpr statics derivation of beam hinging

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of shear forces (Vpr) in beams, particularly focusing on scenarios involving hinging and cantilevers. Participants explore the conditions under which shear forces arise and how they relate to moments and loads applied to the beam.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a formula for calculating shear (V) in a beam undergoing hinging, questioning why shear is only present during hinging and not before.
  • Another participant states that for a cantilever subjected to a moment couple at the free end, there is no shear present in the beam.
  • There is a clarification that if a point load is applied at the free end of a cantilever, shear can indeed be present, with the internal shear force being constant along the length of the cantilever.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the presence of shear in cantilevers, particularly regarding the conditions under which shear forces arise. The discussion remains unresolved as different scenarios are presented without consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights assumptions about loading conditions and the definitions of shear in different contexts, particularly in relation to hinging and cantilever configurations.

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For a beam above between two columns and bars are yield and hinging.. the formula to get the probable shear or vpr (from statics) is

V= M(+) + M(-) /ln
I guess it is derived from V * ln = M(+) + M(-)
First of all. Why is the shear only present when it is hinging and not before (I'm talking of the shear in hinging (plastic rotation) and not the gravity loads which I'm aware has its own shear diagram)

Now what would happen if the beam is part of cantilever where one side is free (not on any support).. how do you make the statics derivation of V?
 

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I am unsure of what you are asking, but for a cantilever subject to a moment couple at the free end, there is no shear anywhere in the beam.
 
PhanthomJay said:
I am unsure of what you are asking, but for a cantilever subject to a moment couple at the free end, there is no shear anywhere in the beam.

But for a point load at the free end.. there can be shear at the cantilever right?
 
dahoa said:
But for a point load at the free end.. there can be shear at the cantilever right?
Oh sure, if you apply a point load Q acting down at the free end, then from sum of forces = 0 in vertical direction, for equilibrium, there must be a vertical load Q acting up at the fixed end, and the internal shear force is then Q constant along the full length of the cantilever.
 

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