W+ decay modes neglect mass branching ratiosQ

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The discussion revolves around estimating the branching ratios of the W+ boson decay modes, which include lepton and quark decays. Participants explore the implications of neglecting the masses of decay products and the role of color charge in quark decays.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the differences between lepton and quark decays, particularly focusing on the color charge of quarks and its effect on decay probabilities. Questions arise about whether quarks in this context can be treated as unbound and how that affects the color constraints in decay processes.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the nature of quark decays and the implications of color charge. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions regarding quark binding and color neutrality in the context of W+ decay.

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Participants note that at the energy levels discussed, quarks can be considered unbound and will hadronize later. There is also a mention of the W boson being colorless, which raises questions about the color summation of quarks in decay processes.

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The question is that the decay modes for the ##W+## boson are , ##e^+ v_{e}, \mu^+ v_{\mu}, \tau^+ v_{\tau}, ud', cs' ##, where a ' denotes a anitquark, neglecting the masses of the decay products estimate the branching ratios of the ##W+##?

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I know that the lepton decays differ to quark decays in the way that quarks come in 3 colours.

I however thought that the quark decays would be reduced, as a pose to more likely, than the lepton decays by a factor of ##3##.

My reasoning is that , (I believe you treat the 2 quark system as a meson and so the colours must add to neutral, I don't know whether the situation differs if the quarks are unbound or you should consider them unbound in this decay, if someone could answer this, thanks?) , if one of the quarks takes a particular colour, the colour of the other antiquark,say, is immediatey constrained by this as it must be of the same colour, so there is only a ##1/3## chance that it gets the right colour.

Thanks.
 
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At this energy, the quarks can be considered as unbound. They will hadronize later, at a lower energy scale.

binbagsss said:
if one of the quarks takes a particular colour, the colour of the other antiquark,say, is immediatey constrained by this as it must be of the same colour, so there is only a 1/3 chance that it gets the right colour.
You can treat the different quark colors as different particles. Then this constraint is equivalent to "if one particle is a positron, then the other particle has to be an electronneutrino" (as opposed to other neutrinos, or quarks, or whatever) - nothing that would make the decay less likely.
The colors just give three different decay modes: u green d' antigreen, u red d' antired, u blue d' antiblue.
 
mfb said:
At this energy, the quarks can be considered as unbound. They will hadronize later, at a lower energy scale.

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Thanks. I see here as the W boson is colourless so the two quarks colour must sum to zero irrespective of whether it is a meson or not, in the general case of an unbound quark system the colour does not need to sum to zero?
 
binbagsss said:
I see here as the W boson is colourless so the two quarks colour must sum to zero irrespective of whether it is a meson or not
Right.

binbagsss said:
in the general case of an unbound quark system the colour does not need to sum to zero?
Right. Gluon+gluon -> quark+antiquark can lead to different colors, for example.
 

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