W = F d cos θ Is Algebra Okay for Work?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of work using the formula W = F d cos θ, specifically in the context of a physics exam preparation. The original poster is attempting to determine the work done when pulling a box with a specified force and distance, while grappling with the cosine of an angle without a calculator.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate work using the formula but is confused about the cosine value of 30 degrees and its application in the equation. Some participants suggest using a calculator for cosine, while others discuss the feasibility of calculating it without one.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the cosine function and its application in the work formula. There is acknowledgment of the algebraic method being correct, but confusion remains regarding the cosine value and its multiplication. Some guidance has been offered regarding the cosine of 30 degrees, but the original poster still expresses uncertainty.

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The original poster mentions restrictions on calculator use for their exam, which adds complexity to their understanding of trigonometric calculations. There is also a reference to the expectation of performing calculations by hand, raising questions about the exam's requirements.

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Greetings all :blushing:

Homework Statement


Greetings all this is the basic type of problem that I am having. W = F d cos θ. This is not for homework this is for my preparation for an exam.

If you were pulling a box like in the example above, which moves 12.7 m when you pull
along the rope with a force of 76.0 N, determine how much work you did.


Homework Equations


it has to do with the Work:: W = F d cos θ



The Attempt at a Solution


I have the answer which is given as:

W = F d cos θ
= 76.0 N (12.7 m) cos30.0°
W = 836 J

The problem is that I do not know how to multiply cos30.0 to know how you get 836 J

I have tried to turn it into .5 so that it would be = 76.0 N(12.7m) (.5) but when I multiply it all together I get 482 and not 836 J

Can you please help me figure this out is it the way I am doing the algebra that is not correct or my conversion of the cos 30? Thank you
 
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Welcome to PF.

The cosine of 30 degrees is NOT 1/2. That's why you didn't get the right answer. Generally speaking, All you're expected to do is to use a calculator to figure out what cos(30o) is.
 
cepheid said:
Welcome to PF.

The cosine of 30 degrees is NOT 1/2. That's why you didn't get the right answer. Generally speaking, All you're expected to do is to use a calculator to figure out what cos(30o) is.

Yes but for this exam that I will take I am not allowed to use a calculator. And I really would like to know how to use cosine and multiply with it not only for this but for other things as well. Do you know how to get to get to836 J without a calculator, or is it too hard to compute without a calculator please? Thank you. The examples seem to feel that we can do it on a scratch piece of paper. Thank you for your response
 
The sine and cosine of 30° (π/6 radians) and 60° (π/3 radians) are supposed to be easy to remember or derive because in this situation you have a special right triangle known as a 30°-60°-90° right triangle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_right_triangles#30-60-90_triangle

By the way, your algebra and method is fine. You just had the wrong numbers.
 
cepheid said:
The sine and cosine of 30° (π/6 radians) and 60° (π/3 radians) are supposed to be easy to remember or derive because in this situation you have a special right triangle known as a 30°-60°-90° right triangle:


Thank you for the information and the welcome I am still confused as to how to solve the equation. I will work on it some more though. God bless
 
peacerosetx said:
Yes but for this exam that I will take I am not allowed to use a calculator.
Then how did you multiply (76.0 N) * (12.7 m)? I guess you could have done it by hand, but I don't think a physics exam that doesn't allow calculators would ask you to do that.
 

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