Wall of Death in amusement park - Find number of revolutions

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The problem involves a scenario in an amusement park where a vertical cylinder, known as the Wall of Death, spins around a vertical axis. The objective is to determine the minimum number of revolutions per minute required to prevent riders from slipping down the wall, given the radius of the cylinder and the coefficient of static friction.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the riders, including weight and friction, and how these relate to the centrifugal force experienced in a spinning system. There are questions about the necessity of specific values like rider mass and velocity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the relationships between the forces involved and questioning the need for certain parameters. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations related to centrifugal force, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of specific information such as the riders' weight or mass, which may impact the calculations. There is also a mention of the potential simplification of equations when mass is considered.

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Here is the question:
The Wall of Death in an amusement park is comprised of a vertical cylinder that can spin around the vertical axis. The radius of the cylinder is 3.5 m and the coefficient of static friction between the rider and the wall is 0.32. Find the minimum number of revolutions per minute necessary so that the riders do not slip down the wall (enter rev/min).
I think I am doing it right, but I do not know
 
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The vertical force you have to overcome is the riders weight.
The friction force is the normal force (force outward) * coef friction.

You just need to know the outward (centrifugal) force on a spinning object.
 
the thing is, I do not know the riders' weight/mass, or velocity
 
When you write down the equations something happens to the mass...
You do know the riders velocity, you have the radius and the rev/second - but you don't need it. Start by looking up the equation for centrifugal force
 

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