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The discussion centers on the historical methods and experimental setups in physics and chemistry, exploring how experiments were conducted and how equations were derived throughout history, from ancient beliefs to modern theories like quantum physics and special relativity. Participants express a desire for resources that detail these experimental processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a strong interest in learning about the history of experiments in physics and chemistry, seeking recommendations for books that cover experimental setups and derivations of equations.
  • One participant suggests that the idea of a comprehensive book on this topic sounds appealing but remains unwritten.
  • Another participant mentions the existence of "secrets" in the field, implying that not all experimental knowledge is openly shared.
  • Some participants argue against the notion of secrets, stating that physical experiments are documented in publications to allow for replication and validation by others.
  • A participant shares specific book titles that may delve into the experimental reasoning, although they note that they have not yet read them to confirm their depth.
  • There is a suggestion that older publications could serve as valuable resources for understanding significant experiments.

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Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the existence of "secrets" in experimental knowledge. While some believe that knowledge should be shared to foster innovation, others maintain that certain information is kept private, leading to a contested view on the accessibility of experimental methods.

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Participants reference the importance of historical context in understanding experiments but do not resolve the debate over the availability of experimental knowledge or the implications of keeping certain information secret.

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Readers interested in the history of science, particularly in physics and chemistry, as well as those looking for resources that detail experimental methods and their historical context.

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Hi, I'm so hungrey for learning about the history of physics and chemeistry and learning how the experiments werer performed throughout history (The actualy experimental setup, and how the equations were derived). Are there any good boks to be recommended? There must be some books that actually explain the experimental setups in physics and chemistry throughout history (from Greek belief to Quantum phyiscs and special relativity) and how the equations were derived?
 
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christian0710 said:
Hi, I'm so hungrey for learning about the history of physics and chemeistry and learning how the experiments werer performed throughout history (The actualy experimental setup, and how the equations were derived). Are there any good boks to be recommended? There must be some books that actually explain the experimental setups in physics and chemistry throughout history (from Greek belief to Quantum phyiscs and special relativity) and how the equations were derived?
Sounds like a great title for an unwritten book.
 
christian0710 said:
Hi, I'm so hungrey for learning about the history of physics and chemeistry and learning how the experiments werer performed throughout history (The actualy experimental setup, and how the equations were derived). Are there any good boks to be recommended? There must be some books that actually explain the experimental setups in physics and chemistry throughout history (from Greek belief to Quantum phyiscs and special relativity) and how the equations were derived?
There are secrets; otherwise, everybody would be out of a career.
 
John F. Gogo said:
There are secrets; otherwise, everybody would be out of a career.
We still live in the times where recipes rule.
 
John F. Gogo said:
There are secrets; otherwise, everybody would be out of a career.
Secrets? Why keep it a secret? I thought the whole point of chemistry and physics was to discover how the world works. If these "Secrets" were made available to everyone, people might have the ability to come up with great ideas or debunk other theories through experiment. Most of what we learn from textbooks in university is how to quickly memorize facts ,because there is so much we need to learn in a short amount of time - It's so boring and uninspiring. I don't see how anyone profits from keeping already discovered experiments secret from each? It just slows down everything. Someone must know? Then again, I live a poor mans life and love to share my knowledge for free. All i really need is clean water, food, cellphone, computer and a small place to live, everything else is just frivolous luxury.Hiding things from people or trying to outpreform other people has always made me feel quite miserable, disconnected and cold, but helping people understand something they had a hard time understanding makes me happy.
 
I think i found some books that actually go into depth with the experiments/reasoning so i thought I'd share the titles with people of same curiosity as me. However It's only from reading peoples reviews that i think they go into depth with the actual experiments. I'd have to read them first to judge myself. Maybe some of you already know these books? Books
Asimov's New Guide to Science - Isaac Asimov
The development of modern chemistry - Aron J
Journey Through Genius: The Great Theorems of Mathematics
 
John F. Gogo said:
There are secrets; otherwise, everybody would be out of a career.
Nonsense. Physical experiments are described in publications, with the purpose of getting repeated by others (if you are the only one to do an experiment, nobody will believe your results).

Old publications are a good starting point, for important experiments they are often available in the internet.
 
mfb said:
Nonsense. Physical experiments are described in publications, with the purpose of getting repeated by others (if you are the only one to do an experiment, nobody will believe your results).

Old publications are a good starting point, for important experiments they are often available in the internet.
Every generation of scientists invent different symbols to describe the same sets of previous circumstances -that which is exclusive and most meaningful to the present educated generation. Every structured occupation does this.
 
mfb said:
Nonsense. Physical experiments are described in publications, with the purpose of getting repeated by others (if you are the only one to do an experiment, nobody will believe your results).

Old publications are a good starting point, for important experiments they are often available in the internet.

Thank you, I'll try finding some online as well as read good books from amazon.
 
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I think i found another good book. I'll keep looking!

Experiments in Modern Physics - Adrian C
 

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