I'm conducting an Experiment -- Moving my hand through a wall

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The discussion revolves around an experiment aimed at exploring the possibility of moving a hand through a wall using vibrations, drawing connections to concepts in quantum physics. Participants share their thoughts on the feasibility of the experiment, the underlying physics, and the experimental setup.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes an experiment involving vibrations to allow a hand to pass through a wall, suggesting that immense vibration could theoretically disrupt the wall's physical properties.
  • Another participant argues that vibration cannot enable a hand to move through a solid object like a wall, emphasizing that the atoms in a wall are bonded and cannot be separated without causing damage.
  • A third participant mentions that quantum mechanical tunneling does not support the idea of moving through a wall as envisioned, and provides a link to further information on the topic.
  • One participant humorously suggests an extreme and impractical method involving the destruction and transformation of a hand to achieve the goal, which does not address the scientific principles involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the feasibility of the proposed experiment, with some asserting that it is impossible while others explore the idea more creatively. No consensus is reached regarding the validity of the initial claim.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes speculative ideas and humorous suggestions that do not adhere to established scientific principles. There is a lack of consensus on the application of quantum mechanics to the proposed scenario.

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Hey, I would like to showcase my experiment I'm doing. I'm 16, in high school, and the only science I know is chemistry. But that was a default class. I'm learning about Quantum Physics on my free time. and would very much like to become a scientist in that field. To start off this is kind of a mix of Pseudoscience, and Quantum Physics. But mainly the Quantum side. Here's the explanation of the experiment. I would basically like to move my hand through a wall, without disrupting any of its physical properties. This can be done (in theory) with immense vibration. For example, you put rice in a cup. With a marble on top of the rice. The rice represent the molecules. And if you add vibration to the equation, the marble starts to sink.
My setup:
I have putty, and a marble. 3, 1.5 volt dc motors. Each with an alligator clip on. I put the 3 motors around a thick circle. I personally use a roll of duct tape. I lay the putty flat, as smooth and even as I can get it on the roll above the hollow space. I put the marble on the putty, and record the sinking time. I do 3 trials without the vibration, record them. 3 with vibration, and do the same. So far I did 1 trial with vibration, and it is a shorter time, then the 3 trials without vibration. I basically would like to talk to people about this experiment, and would also like some help.
 
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snakelgur said:
. I would basically like to move my hand through a wall, without disrupting any of its physical properties. This can be done (in theory) with immense vibration.

No it can't. Vibration will not allow you to move your hand through an object.

snakelgur said:
For example, you put rice in a cup. With a marble on top of the rice. The rice represent the molecules. And if you add vibration to the equation, the marble starts to sink.

That's because the rice grains are not bound to each other and are able to move into empty space and allow the marble to sink (much like putting a heavy object into water). The same is not true of a wall. In a wall, the atoms are all bonded together and you can't get them to move apart without permanently breaking their bonds. In other words, in order to move your fist through a wall, you'd need to put a hole in the wall. The application of enough force should do the trick, but it's going to hurt like hell.

snakelgur said:
I have putty, and a marble. 3, 1.5 volt dc motors. Each with an alligator clip on. I put the 3 motors around a thick circle. I personally use a roll of duct tape. I lay the putty flat, as smooth and even as I can get it on the roll above the hollow space. I put the marble on the putty, and record the sinking time. I do 3 trials without the vibration, record them. 3 with vibration, and do the same. So far I did 1 trial with vibration, and it is a shorter time, then the 3 trials without vibration. I basically would like to talk to people about this experiment, and would also like some help.

The putty is very ductile*, which means that the molecules making up the putty aren't strongly bonded to each other and can easily be separated as the putty is stretched by the force of the marble. If the marble passes through the putty it does so by putting a hole in it.

*I hope that's the right term. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
 
snakelgur said:
I would basically like to move my hand through a wall, without disrupting any of its physical properties.
There is no currently known scientific theory that suggests that that might be remotely possible. In particular, quantum mechanical tunnelling (which has nothing to do with vibrations) doesn't do what you're thinking it does.

Also, check out https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/you-will-not-tunnel-through-a-wall/
 
I'll probably get into trouble for this... But, I cannot help it. :DD

Chop off your hand, liquefy the fleshy parts and turn the solid remains into a fine powder. Then, remove the wall (I assume one piece of unprimed sheetrock) and place it on the floor into a box that catches matter and prevents water from running off the sides. Spread the ash thinly onto the dry surface. Now, slowly spread a small amount of the liquid remains onto the wall. Shake and rub vigorously while you spray water and force your hand through the other side. Repeat as needed. Allow to air dry and rehang. The matter in the box should be equivalent to the hand and water used (and maybe some sheetrock dust). The physical properties wouldn't be any more dramatically altered than lumber left outside for years and would retain it's usefulness as a wall. Your hand though...

And, there you go, it could be possible to 'move' your hand through a wall. :))
 
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