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The discussion centers on the physics of phase transitions, particularly focusing on the formation of bubbles during boiling and the mechanisms of condensation nuclei. Participants express a desire for resources that provide a qualitative understanding of these concepts, rather than a purely quantitative or theoretical approach.

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  • One participant seeks recommendations for texts on phase transitions, expressing a lack of knowledge in the area.
  • Another participant suggests "Thermodynamics and an Introduction to Thermostatistics" as a suitable introductory text, along with "Elements of Phase Transitions and Critical Phenomena" for a more advanced treatment.
  • A participant clarifies their preference for qualitative understanding, questioning whether bubbles form below boiling temperature and if they remain too small to be visible.
  • Additional recommendations include books that explore phase transitions in various fields such as biochemistry, cell biology, ecology, sociology, and finance, emphasizing a broader application of the concept.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on a single recommended text, as preferences vary between qualitative and quantitative approaches. Multiple competing views on suitable resources remain evident.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the specifics of bubble formation at temperatures below boiling and the qualitative aspects of phase transitions, indicating a need for further exploration of these concepts.

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Individuals interested in the physics of phase transitions, particularly those looking for qualitative resources or interdisciplinary applications of the concept.

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I realized yesterday that I don't know nearly as much as I would like about the physics of phase transitions. How do bubbles form when water boils? How do condensation nuclei work? I had a whole host of questions that I didn't feel adequately able to answer.

Can anyone recommend a good physical chemistry (or just physics if that's better) text that describes in detail the physics of phase transitions?

PS I'm not afraid of thermodynamics
 
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try "Thermodynamics and an Introduction to Thermostatistics". It is a general thermodynamics book with a good introduction to phase transitions.

If that's too basic, then the grad level "Elements of Phase Transitions and Critical Phenomena" is good.

However, the 2nd book is highly theoretical and is mostly about *how to calculate stuff*.
 
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try "Thermodynamics and an Introduction to Thermostatistics". It is a general thermodynamics book with a good introduction to phase transitions.

If that's too basic, then the grad level "Elements of Phase Transitions and Critical Phenomena" is good.

However, the 2nd book is highly theoretical and is mostly about *how to calculate stuff*.

I had a look at both texts, and they aren't what I'm really looking for. I'm aiming for a qualitative understanding of phase transitions.

I'll give you an example: when a liquid boils, large bubbles form spontaneously from the bulk of the liquid. When the liquid is below boiling temperature, are there no bubbles being formed? Or are there bubbles formed, but they stay too small to see?

I have a whole host of questions like these, and rather than ask them individually I'd like to read something so I can get acquainted with the basic theory. I'm not looking for anything too advanced or quantitative.
 
Try this book.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0691150753/?tag=pfamazon01-20

It takes a look at phase transitions in things like biochemistry (abiotic evolution, virus dynamics, critical genome size), cell biology (cells, gene networks, cancer), ecology (disease modeling, green-desert transitions), sociology (traffic) and finance (stock market crashes).

Here's another book:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/3642094082/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Its a thermodynamics book, but it has a strong section on phase transitions in polymers, liquid crystals, etc. and 2 sections on phase transitions.
 
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