Was Giuseppe Peano Influenced by Euclid in Developing Axiomatic Systems?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential influence of Euclid on Giuseppe Peano in the development of axiomatic systems. Participants explore historical connections and seek reliable sources to substantiate claims regarding this influence.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that while Euclid influenced many mathematicians before Peano, a direct influence on Peano would require a review of both their works.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the claim of direct influence, noting that they have not found specific references to support it, particularly in the context of Peano's axioms.
  • A different participant recommends a book that discusses Peano but does not recall any specific mention of Euclid's influence, suggesting that while such influence might exist, it is not clearly documented.
  • One participant points out the importance of tracing the historical connections through resources like math genealogy to understand the broader context of influence.
  • Concerns are raised about the reliability of Wikipedia as a source, particularly regarding its claims about Peano's influences.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether Euclid directly influenced Peano. There are multiple viewpoints regarding the nature and extent of influence, with some expressing doubt about the existence of direct connections.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of tracing historical influences and the potential for missing references or connections in existing literature.

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Hello there,

First off: I realize this is not a history of math sub-forum, but I could not find any such thing.
Now, secondly: I'm writing an essay on the history axiomatic systems, and I found one or two sources that indicate that Giuseppe Peano was in fact influence by Euclid.I wonder whether any of it is true, since I can't find any book or trustable source that verifies it.

So, does anybody know a biography or other trustable article that sheds light on this matter?
 
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I would say yes but you'd have to make your case reviewing works of both Peano and Euclid to say.

Euclid influenced a lot of people prior to Peano and Peano had to have learned from them.

http://people.cst.cmich.edu/piate1kl/MTH_553_F07/Euclidean_Geometry_small.pdf

Maybe search first on Euclid influence in general and from there make a path to Peano and his Peano axioms and set theory.
 
Thanks for your reply!

I'm aware of the influential chain reaction of which you speak, but I was wondering if Euclid had a direct influence on Peano as he had with, say, Newton.

Unrelated sidenote:
I now absolutely hate wikipedia, for stating that Peano was influenced by Euclid, without any reference.
 
Hi Knaapje
I could recommend "From Frege to Gödel, a source book in mathematical logic" by van Heijenoort in which a section is dedicated to Peano
I don't remember any specific connection to Euclid there, so maybe I am being offtopic if what you really are after is showing or disproving such an influence (I would doubt such an influence didn't exist, for him or anyone else anyway)
But if you are after looking for what were possible influences, or even missed influences (Frege IIRC) for Peano, then it could be useful for you
Furthermore, and since the axiomatic way of building mathematics is such a huge concern, (I'm not sure about what you are really after in your essay), this book should give you a lot of food for thought, it really is incredible :)
 
you could also check out the math genealogy:

http://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/from there you could make the connections back to Euclid.

With respect to the wiki artile you mentioned, you could check the edit pages to see who contributed and email them asking for the references you were looking for.
 
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