Was Obama's Re-Taking of the Oath of Office Necessary?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the necessity of President Obama's re-taking of the oath of office, particularly focusing on the legal implications of the timing and wording of the oath. Participants explore historical precedents, constitutional requirements, and the significance of the oath in the context of presidential power and legitimacy.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Historical
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the incoming President was legally in office at noon on inauguration day, suggesting that the wording of the oath may not have been critical.
  • Others argue that the slip in wording did not change the meaning of the oath and reference historical precedents where other Presidents did not retake the oath despite similar issues.
  • A few participants propose that it is prudent to retake the oath to avoid any potential legal ambiguities, regardless of the circumstances.
  • Some mention that every President whose term started on a Sunday has taken the oath twice, indicating a tradition of ensuring the oath is correctly administered.
  • Participants discuss the implications of executive power and whether actions taken by Obama before retaking the oath were valid.
  • There is a mention of the absence of a Bible during the second oath, with some noting that a Bible is not constitutionally required for the oath.
  • One participant expresses appreciation for the historical context provided, indicating a desire for clarity on the issue.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on whether the re-taking of the oath was necessary or if the initial oath sufficed. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the legal implications of the wording and timing of the oath.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the interpretation of the oath's wording and its implications for presidential power may depend on historical context and legal precedents, which are not fully agreed upon in the discussion.

  • #31
LURCH said:
I didn't watch the swearing in. What exactly did Mr Obabma say, in place of "...that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States..."? I heard that he missplaced the "faithfully," but I never heard where he placed it.
" I will execute the Office of President of the United States, faithfullly..."
 
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  • #32
Vanadium 50 said:
One can ask all sorts of trivial questions - like was Joe Biden George Bush's vice president for half an hour? Was Nancy Pelosi the Acting President for a few minutes?

Considering that this is a problem that takes a minute to fix, isn't it prudent to do it again no matter what?

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE don't ever use Nancy Pelosi's name with the (P word attached)...talk about a nightmare...OMG!
 

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