Washing Clothes: Mechanical vs Lazy Processes

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The discussion centers on the effectiveness of washing clothes by hand in a tub versus using a washing machine. Participants note that while soaking clothes in soapy water can clean them to some extent, it lacks the agitation provided by a washing machine, which is crucial for removing dirt and oils. Hand washing is labor-intensive, requiring scrubbing or vigorous stirring to achieve satisfactory results. Some users mention that washing machines offer convenience and efficiency, especially for larger loads, while hand washing may be more economical for small items or delicate fabrics. The conversation also touches on the importance of following care labels for specific items, such as sleeping bags, which may require special handling. Ultimately, while hand washing can work, it generally requires more effort and may not yield as thorough a clean as a washing machine.
  • #31
Noone said:
Well to cut the drain time out of the whole pic, you would have to place each piece folded on top of one another then put into a box that press'es them, then shoots water and soup through them back and forth over and over again till all the dirt is gone, wouldn't need to spin, just flushes out all the dirt and germ's, until the water quality is fair, then it stop's. And then blows hot air into it, then steam's it, and they come out with no wrinkly's dirt, or germ's. It would look like a Big box. and in side would be a lot of small hole's that suck and blow jets of water and soup, and then hole's that only open when its time to dry and steam.

All you would have to do is fold them before puting them in.

Or we can just pick from hand washing, scrub board, or a washing mach, to do it.
there isn't much things that can replace the effectiveness of a washing mach.

I really think washing with soup would be counter-productive, but maybe it would hide the grease stains. :rolleyes: :smile:
 
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  • #32
lisab said:
Wouldn't that make it a leftunder?
Drat! I got caught on a language issue. :redface:
Words is my life; now what's I going to do...? :cry:
 
  • #33
BobG said:
You'll never get your clothes clean just getting them wet. You need a washboard and then you, "Plunge, and scrub! Plunge, and scrub! Plunge, and scrub!" Haven't you ever seen the movie "Far and Away"? They give directions.

I will just like to say that this made me laugh outloud.

And I agree, I wouldn't think that clothes get clean without a little friction between the fibers, you know, when it makes foam.

Rabbid clothes!
 
  • #34
Moonbear said:
I really think washing with soup would be counter-productive, but maybe it would hide the grease stains. :rolleyes: :smile:

>.< i hope you knew what i meant by the word soup x.X it's soap, yes it wouldn't take much to see that my spelling isn't like everyone els'es, i tend to type in a format of sounding things out, like instead of typen ew, i would type eu, instead of SEGA i would type Sayga, but now that i think of it soap wouldn't be needed, only for smell and disafectant
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-=(Communication's)=-See a miss spelt word? if you know it's miss spelt why bother fixing it when you know what it mean's allready? :P Yes but it would be nice, to have a washing mac, that steam's and clean's your things without spinning them around -.- people buy things because there difrent and everyone els doesn't have one :) but i like things that are more effective and take less time to carry out there atended function's. Hence what a tool is made for. wow..talking about this has made me feel dirty...ty
 
  • #35
Noone said:
>.< i hope you knew what i meant by the word soup x.X it's soap,

Of course, which is why it created such a funny image for me that I had to comment on it, thinking about squeezing soup through one's clothes.
 
  • #36
BobG said:
You'll never get your clothes clean just getting them wet. You need a washboard and then you, "Plunge, and scrub! Plunge, and scrub! Plunge, and scrub!" Haven't you ever seen the movie "Far and Away"? They give directions.

Is that how you would wash a sleeping bag as well? But scrub with what? Just rub the material against each other?
 
  • #37
tgt said:
Is that how you would wash a sleeping bag as well? But scrub with what? Just rub the material against each other?

I'd just take it to a cleaners if it can't be thrown in a washing machine. Let them figure it out. I have tossed sleeping bags into the washer (but also do as someone mentioned above of using a sheet or thin blanket as a liner...I fold a sheet in half, sew the bottom edge where your feet will go, and then sew up along half of the long side...creates a nice pocket to slide into and if you are a restless sleeper, like I am when sleeping on hard ground, the liner doesn't unwrap) and then the dryer. The hardest part of handwashing something of that size will be adequately wringing it out so it'll dry. Though, if it can be handwashed, I can't see why it can't be machine washed on a delicate cycle at least...depending on the fabric and lining, it might need to be dry cleaned.
 
  • #38
Moonbear said:
I'd just take it to a cleaners if it can't be thrown in a washing machine. Let them figure it out. I have tossed sleeping bags into the washer (but also do as someone mentioned above of using a sheet or thin blanket as a liner...I fold a sheet in half, sew the bottom edge where your feet will go, and then sew up along half of the long side...creates a nice pocket to slide into and if you are a restless sleeper, like I am when sleeping on hard ground, the liner doesn't unwrap) and then the dryer. The hardest part of handwashing something of that size will be adequately wringing it out so it'll dry. Though, if it can be handwashed, I can't see why it can't be machine washed on a delicate cycle at least...depending on the fabric and lining, it might need to be dry cleaned.

Does dry clean give the best results? What other cleaning methods are there?
 
  • #39
tgt said:
Does dry clean give the best results? What other cleaning methods are there?

Servants. Or the students favourite, hanging it out of the window a few days so it can air. But I think dry cleaning is the best as it's a professional service. Also hanging your clothes on the line in a heavy rain shower is quite good. Not that I do that obviously. :rolleyes:
 
  • #40
tgt said:
Does dry clean give the best results? What other cleaning methods are there?

If it says to dry clean, dry cleaning gives the best results. If it doesn't say to dry clean, then it might not. Professional cleaners can also do wet cleaning on large items if you can't do it at home...as was pointed out before...DO WHAT THE LABEL SAYS. Or if you're still under 30, call your mom. :smile:
 
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  • #41
Moonbear said:
If it says to dry clean, dry cleaning gives the best results. If it doesn't say to dry clean, then it might not. Professional cleaners can also do wet cleaning on large items if you can't do it at home...as was pointed out before...DO WHAT THE LABEL SAYS. Or if you're still under 30, call your mom. :smile:

Unfortunately it says to hand wash. They probably don't do hand wash anymore in shops?
 
  • #42
tgt said:
Unfortunately it says to hand wash. They probably don't do hand wash anymore in shops?

If it's one item wash it in the sink with some soap powder. Make sure the water is comfortable to wash in and heat shouldn't be an issue. Leave it to soak for a few hours, and mash it around occasionally and it should be fine. If your really lazy like me get your maid to do it. :smile:
 
  • #43
Schrodinger's Dog said:
If it's one item wash it in the sink with some soap powder. Make sure the water is comfortable to wash in and heat shouldn't be an issue. Leave it to soak for a few hours, and mash it around occasionally and it should be fine. If your really lazy like me get your maid to do it. :smile:

Why dosen't this method work for 10 items say?
 
  • #44
tgt said:
Why dosen't this method work for 10 items say?

It does, you'll just need a bath instead. It sounded to me though like you just wanted to wash 1 item.
 
  • #45
Schrodinger's Dog said:
It does, you'll just need a bath instead. It sounded to me though like you just wanted to wash 1 item.

I orginally asked washing a basket of clothes whether the method you described worked. Everyone else said no. You seem to agree? Have you tried it?

Then the sleeping bag question came up as I really need to wash it, it hasn't been washed for a decade?
 
  • #46
tgt said:
I orginally asked washing a basket of clothes whether the method you described worked. Everyone else said no. You seem to agree? Have you tried it?

Then the sleeping bag question came up as I really need to wash it, it hasn't been washed for a decade?

Yes I have tried it and yes it works. If people say that washing your clothes by hand doesn't work then they are wrong, simple as that. It might not be as good as using a washing machine but it will get your clothes clean or at the least much cleaner.

I'd be careful about washing a sleeping bag, it can be done - I've washed a quilt before - but the amount of water in it makes it a pain to carry, make sure you wring it out thoroughly, or it will take ages to dry. Give it a long soaking as well and top it up with hot water occasionally.
 
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  • #47
Schrodinger's Dog said:
Yes I have tried it and yes it works. If people say that washing your clothes by hand doesn't work then they are wrong, simple as that.

I think you were referring to just soaking the clothes in soap water for an hour or so. Does this exclude all forms of rubbing and doing physical labour on it?
 
  • #48
tgt said:
I think you were referring to just soaking the clothes in soap water for an hour or so. Does this exclude all forms of rubbing and doing physical labour on it?

I don't think I said that you shouldn't put a bit of physical effort into it. The method I use is to give it a good pummelling, go off for a while then do the same again, repeat until your happy it's clean. You can of course spend half an hour giving your clothes a good beating until they are clean, but if time isn't a factor I prefer to just let nature take it's course, up to a point.
 
  • #49
Schrodinger's Dog said:
If it's one item wash it in the sink with some soap powder. Make sure the water is comfortable to wash in and heat shouldn't be an issue. Leave it to soak for a few hours, and mash it around occasionally and it should be fine. If your really lazy like me get your maid to do it. :smile:

oh, okay, here is your quote. You did say mash it a bit. So just knock it a bit? A few swirls?
 
  • #50
tgt said:
oh, okay, here is your quote. You did say mash it a bit. So just knock it a bit? A few swirls?

Yeah give it a good wring and then put it back in the water and bash it around a bit and then come back later. Add a bit of hot water every now and then, should do the trick.
 
  • #51
tgt said:
Unfortunately it says to hand wash. They probably don't do hand wash anymore in shops?

If your washer has a delicate cycle, you can use that for things that are supposed to be hand washed. And stick to warm or cold water washing, not hot.
 
  • #52
Schrodinger's Dog said:
Yeah give it a good wring and then put it back in the water and bash it around a bit and then come back later. Add a bit of hot water every now and then, should do the trick.

Sounds good. Why bother with a washing machine then?
 
  • #53
tgt said:
Sounds good. Why bother with a washing machine then?

Rather a slow process for large amounts of laundry, don't you think? As was pointed out very early in the thread, you don't NEED a washing machine, it's a convenience.
 
  • #54
tgt said:
So soaking them in soap water don't work? Why not? What if it's only sweat and no dirt or anything like that?
As with washing your hands, the primary function of washing is to mechanically remove contaminants. The agitation and rubbing that comes with a washing machine or with a good hand-wash is designed to break up the oils - which is what most dirt on clothes and human bodies are composed of.

Water, and particularly hot water, will certainly aid in this process, but you need the soap to emulsify the oils (capture them and coat them) or they will just reattach themselves to the cloth. Once a bit of soap and a bit of hot water have done their jobs they can't do any more, and in fact, get in the way of further cleaning - the used soap and the (cooler) water needs to get out of the way so that more soap and hot water can get in.

And that's why agitation is a key component.


[EDIT: Oops - I'm a little late to the table...]
 
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  • #55
tgt said:
I think you were referring to just soaking the clothes in soap water for an hour or so. Does this exclude all forms of rubbing and doing physical labour on it?
For someone this intent on minimizing the effort put into anything, you certainly put a lot of effort into figuring out the exact value of this minimal effort.

You should consider studying Operations Research. The possibilities will make you giddy.
 
  • #56
Gokul43201 said:
For someone this intent on minimizing the effort put into anything, you certainly put a lot of effort into figuring out the exact value of this minimal effort.

You should consider studying Operations Research. The possibilities will make you giddy.

:smile: I don't even know what we're washing anymore...is it a tub full of clothing, or a sleeping bag?
 
  • #57
Gokul43201 said:
For someone this intent on minimizing the effort put into anything, you certainly put a lot of effort into figuring out the exact value of this minimal effort.

You should consider studying Operations Research. The possibilities will make you giddy.

:smile: My hubby's an OR guy!
 
  • #58
Moonbear said:
:smile: I don't even know what we're washing anymore...is it a tub full of clothing, or a sleeping bag?

Both really. I got a great idea about not using a machine for a tub full of clothes. Why not wash each day's clothes individually everyday. A little effort a day seems like nothing.
 
  • #59
tgt said:
Both really. I got a great idea about not using a machine for a tub full of clothes. Why not wash each day's clothes individually everyday. A little effort a day seems like nothing.

There's no reason not to if you don't mind that extra time every day. Of course, someone who's single and living alone with just a small amount of clothing to wash every day might not find it nearly as much of a burden as someone with a family and children who go through several changes of clothing in a day as they get into messes. Some people also prefer letting their clothes hang to dry rather than putting them into a dryer (and for some clothes, this is the best approach to avoid shrinkage), but for most clothing, people don't really want to wait that long for the clothes to dry.
 
  • #60
Moonbear said:
There's no reason not to if you don't mind that extra time every day. Of course, someone who's single and living alone with just a small amount of clothing to wash every day might not find it nearly as much of a burden as someone with a family and children who go through several changes of clothing in a day as they get into messes. Some people also prefer letting their clothes hang to dry rather than putting them into a dryer (and for some clothes, this is the best approach to avoid shrinkage), but for most clothing, people don't really want to wait that long for the clothes to dry.

The only concern is that only one bathroom sink may make it too dirty?
 

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