Water cooled/heated between 0 -4 C

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of water as it is cooled from 4°C to 0°C, particularly focusing on its expansion and contraction properties. Participants explore the implications of water's density changes in this temperature range and draw comparisons to the behavior of air.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants discuss the contraction of water when heated between 0°C and 4°C and question whether cooling from 4°C to 0°C results in expansion. Others introduce related questions about the density of air and its temperature effects.

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The discussion is active with participants providing insights into the properties of water and ice, as well as raising related questions about air density. There is a mix of agreement and exploration of different concepts without a clear consensus yet.

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Some participants note a lack of familiarity with the specifics of the temperature range and mention assumptions related to standard temperature and pressure. There is also a reference to molecular bonding forces in water, which may require further exploration.

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this may be a silly question but:

I understand that water heated between 0 and 4 C will contract, does this mean that if it is cooled from 4 to 0 C it will expand?
 
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Yes. Ice floats because it's less dense than water... this isn't an instantaneous expansion, it happens over the last couple of degrees, as the water begins to take on icy like structure (or something like that)
 
Sorry to hijack your thread but I have a similar question: does this work for air as well, ie. is hot air more dense than cold air? Is this why it is cold in the atmosphere and on mountains?
 
I am not familiar with the specifics of the 0-4 C temp. range; but, I assume it is for standard temp. and pressure. The expansion/contraction of water has to do with the bond strength between the molecules - dipoles I believe. When water cools to near freezing, the molecules no longer have enough energy to break free from this bonding force. It just so happens that the when the molecules align in this way to make the ice crystals, they require a larger volume, hence lower density.

This is different from gas/air. Those atoms/molecules have sufficient energy to completely overcome any inter-atomic/molecular forces -> phase change.
 

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