Water Pressure in Conical Tank Question

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The discussion revolves around calculating the pressure at the outlet of a conical tank filled with water, given specific dimensions and air pressure. Participants explore the implications of the tank's shape and the role of air pressure in determining the outlet pressure.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks about the pressure at the 150mm outlet of a conical tank filled with water, considering an air pressure of 15psi.
  • Another participant suggests using Bernoulli's theorem to analyze the flow, stating that the total energies at both ends of the flow are constant and provides the equation for this analysis.
  • A later reply confirms understanding of the previous explanation and indicates plans to perform calculations based on the provided information.
  • Another participant asserts that air pressure does not affect the pressure at the outlet, emphasizing that static pressure is determined by the weight density of water and height, regardless of the nozzle shape.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the role of air pressure in this scenario, with some participants arguing it does not matter while others imply it may be relevant to the calculations.

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Participants have not fully resolved the implications of air pressure on the pressure calculations, and assumptions regarding fluid dynamics principles are present but not explicitly stated.

Another God
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I was wondering if anyon could help me out.

You have a conical tank with a top diameter of 1m, going down to an outlet of 150mm diameter, height of the tank = 3m, and it's full of water. Assuming an air pressure of 15psi, what is the pressure at the 150mm opening? (the bottom)?

Does the air pressure make a difference due to the nozzle shape of the tank?

Thanks
 
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Are you trying to say something about a pipeline with a wider beginning and a narow end. The water is flowing from the wider end to the narrower end.

If this is the problem, then u can use bernoulli's theorem,
The total energies at both the ends are the same.

i.e the sum of pressure energy, kinetic energy and potential energy is constant throughout the flow.

in other words:

(p^2)/w + gh + (v^2)/2g is always a constant. Assuming that flow is downwards in the problem, the height of the 1m openong is 3 m and that of the 150mm end is 0. So using this find the total energy on each side and equate them. Since the same fluid is flowing w-the sp.density is the same. p is the pressure. At the opening the pressure = air pressure.
v is the velocity. To find the value of v at both the ends (or atleast cancel out the v term in the equation) u need to use the continuity equation A1*v1 = A2*v2. Using this find, v1/v2, substitute the other values and then find the value of the pressure at the other end.

Got it?

Sridhar
 
Yep, that exactly what we meant.

Thanks for the reply, we'll run some numbers, and get back to you with what conclusions we reach.

Thanks again.
 
Originally posted by Another God
Does the air pressure make a difference due to the nozzle shape of the tank?
Nope. Thats one of the trick questions in fluids. Remember - pressure is pressure. The pressure (static and velocity are the same for the various cases you could do here, conveniently) at the bottom is simply the weight density of water times the height. Technically, that's the static pressure, but if the water is flowing, the static pressure at the bottom of the tank is equal to the velocity pressure. So from that you can caluclate the velocity of the water and the flowrate.
 

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