Waterloo vs. Minnesota Duluth for physics M.Sc.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decision-making process for selecting between two physics M.Sc. programs at the University of Minnesota, Duluth and the University of Waterloo, with a focus on the implications for future PhD applications, particularly in string theory and related fields.

Discussion Character

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  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in string theory but is uncertain about the specific subfield, noting the presence of only one professor in string cosmology at Duluth who hinted at potential involvement through a reading course.
  • Another participant highlights the advantages of being near the Perimeter Institute, mentioning opportunities for collaboration and access to visiting professors, which could enhance the educational experience.
  • There is a suggestion that having research experience in experimental high-energy physics (HEP Ex) rather than theoretical physics may be beneficial for PhD applications, particularly in the US.
  • A participant mentions their experimental project will focus on quantum information and foundations in quantum theory, which they believe is a valid area of research.
  • Clarification is provided that the professor at Minnesota specializes in cosmic strings, which are described as topological solutions to field theories and not directly related to string theory, potentially influencing the decision towards Waterloo.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the value of research experience in experimental versus theoretical physics, and there is no consensus on which program would be more advantageous for future PhD applications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best choice for the participant's specific interests and goals.

Contextual Notes

Participants note various factors influencing their opinions, such as the nature of research projects available at each institution and the relevance of coursework to future studies, but these factors are not fully explored or agreed upon.

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I received acceptances from the University of Minnesota, Duluth (not Twin Cities) and the University of Waterloo for their physics M.Sc. programs. I am interested in string theory - not exactly sure about the subfield.

At Duluth, there is only one professor working in string cosmology who I think was open to me joining his group during email conversations - he didn't explicitly say this but he mentioned something about a reading course as preparation.

On the other hand, at Waterloo I will be working in an experimental field (not high energy physics) - the supervisor is decided at the time of admission. I am not sure what are the chances of changing advisors but I'm not banking on it. I do however feel that the close proximity to Perimeter Institute might offer a chance to do a summer project or some project on the side alongside my experimental thesis.

I know the decision is mine in the end but I wanted your opinion on a few things. Would graduating from Waterloo (better department) offset the lack of a full thesis in string theory (I might have a smaller project at Perimeter) when I apply for PhD programs in the US or Canada in the future? If I decide to go to Waterloo and do a small project at Perimeter, are my chances of getting a PhD admit with that same group considerable (assuming I do good work)? If you believe I should consider other factors when I'm deciding, please do let me know. I have till Wednesday June 1st to decide. Any help is very appreciated.
 
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I think being near the Perimeter is a huge plus. There are wonderful people there and also a lot of very famous professors regularly visit for a few months over the summer (they have visiting research chairs).

I also think that if you are planning on getting a PhD in the US, having research experience in HEP Ex rather than in theory may not be a bad thing. It seems that people in HEP ex do need to know a lot of QFT, so if you took those classes during your masters, you would would be able to come into grad school and take strings right away:
 
Thanks very much for shedding some light on Perimeter.
radium said:
having research experience in HEP Ex rather than in theory may not be a bad thing.:
My experimental research project will be in quantum information and foundations in quantum theory.
 
Oh ok, I think that should be fine too.
 
Just a clarification. I emailed the professor at Minnesota and he said that he specifically works in cosmic strings which according to him are not directly related to string theory - they're more like topological solutions to field theories.

Guess this info slightly favors choosing Waterloo (although understanding QFT now will help in string theory research later)
 

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