Wave Function Spherical Coordinates Probabilities

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Homework Statement



A system's wave function has the form

[tex]\psi(r, \theta, \phi) = f(t, \theta)cos\phi[/tex]

With what probability will measurement of [tex]L_z[/tex] yield the value m = 1?

Homework Equations



[tex]L_z|\ell, m> = m|\ell, m>[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I feel like there may be a typo, in that that "t" should be "r" in the wave function. Is there a general expression for [tex]\psi_{n,\ell,m}[/tex] that I should know/use?
 
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use the postulate of quantum mechanics. it says when you measure something, you'll get one of its eigenvalues with probabilities equal to the |coefficient|^2 of the corresponding eigenstates.
 
What is the proper eigenvalue equation to use?
 
The one you displayed under "2. Homework Equations "!
 
So the probability L_z will give m=1 comes from:

<Psi | L_z | Psi> = m

Then, the probability of getting 1 is 1^2=1? Likewise, the probability of getting 0 is 0? I'm pretty sure I'm wrong here, can someone please correct me?
 
[tex]<\Psi | L_z | \Psi>[/tex] is the expectation (i.e., average) value of L_z.

The probabilities to find specific values m for L_z follow from writing your wavefunction in the form

[tex]|\Psi>=\sum_m c_m |l,m>[/tex]

as in your special case you only have 1 value of l in the superposition.
In this case the probability to find the value "m" is given by

[tex]P_m=|c_m|^2[/tex]

More generally, you'd write

[tex]|\Psi>=\sum_m \sum_l a_{lm}|l,m>[/tex]

and the probability to find the result "m" would be given by a sum over l:

[tex]P_m=\sum_l |a_{lm}|^2[/tex](And use that the wavefunction should be normalized properly!)
 
Why is there only one value of l in my case? I'm assuming I need to use some separation of variables in order to put the wave function in the appropriate form? I think I'm having a hard time seeing what I'm supposed to do with that wave function that was given to me. And that "t" is throwing me off...
 
Can anybody give me a clue here? I'm preparing for a test tomorrow, so I'd really, really appreciate the help!
 
brooke, use the spherical harmonics, you should have a table of them. Then you rewrite f(t,theta*cos(phi) as a function of them. Then use the fact that L_Z is an eigenoperator on those functions.

"First few spherical harmonics"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_harmonics

Now you study where the phi depandance is on these functions, and you might want to rewrite your cos(phi) to exponentials using eulers formula..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler's_formula
 
So for clarification.

i) the Spherical Harmonics is a complete basis for angular functions, you can express any function dep. on anges as a sum of those sphreical harmonics, compare with Fourier series.

ii) The spherical harmonics is eigenfunctions to L_z operator with eigenvalue m.

iii) You don't need to know the values of L in this problem, just look at the phi dependence of the function you are given and have a look at the spherical harmonics on the page i gave you or in your book. You will find that only two possible spherical harmonics exists.

iv) Rewrite your phi-dependence in terms of exponentials