Wave Problem? Solve w/Typical Values: T=1500K, m=7amu, d=3mm, L=2m

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The discussion centers on calculating the diameter of an atomic beam emerging from an apparatus, specifically using the formula for beam expansion: L*hbar/(d*sqrt(3mkT). The typical values provided are T=1500K, m=7amu (lithium atoms), d=3mm, and L=2m. The calculated expansion was approximately 2.604*10^-9 meters. Key steps include determining the horizontal speed of the beam, calculating travel time, and applying the uncertainty principle to find the vertical velocity.

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Homework Statement


An apparatus is used to prepare an atomic beam by heating a collection of atoms to a temperature T and allowing the beam to emerge through a hole of diameter d in one side of the oven. The beam then travels through a straight path of length L. Show that the diamter of the beam at the end of the path is larger than d by an amount of order L*hbar/(d*sqrt(3mkT)) where m is the mass of an atom. Make a numerical estimate for typical values of T=1500K m=7amu(lithium atoms), d=3mm, L=2m.


Homework Equations



no clue :cry:

The Attempt at a Solution


I calculated the ratio using the given data and got 2.604*10^-9 meters.
I have no clue where to even begin on this problem. Really all I'm looking for is a hint. Not someone to do it for me.
 
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GreenLRan said:

Homework Statement


An apparatus is used to prepare an atomic beam by heating a collection of atoms to a temperature T and allowing the beam to emerge through a hole of diameter d in one side of the oven. The beam then travels through a straight path of length L. Show that the diamter of the beam at the end of the path is larger than d by an amount of order L*hbar/(d*sqrt(3mkT)) where m is the mass of an atom. Make a numerical estimate for typical values of T=1500K m=7amu(lithium atoms), d=3mm, L=2m.


Homework Equations



no clue :cry:

The Attempt at a Solution


I calculated the ratio using the given data and got 2.604*10^-9 meters.
I have no clue where to even begin on this problem. Really all I'm looking for is a hint. Not someone to do it for me.

First step: find at what horizontal speed the beam emerges (that speed will depend on kT and on the mass)

Second step: use that v_x to find how long it takes to travel a distance L

Third step, use the uncertainty principle along the y direction to find the velocity along y (the value of [itex]\Delta y[/itex] is basically the diameter of the hole)

Fourth step: multiply the time of the second step by the y velocity of the third step.

I did it very quickly and got that answer. But the most tricky part is to get correct the factors of 2!

Patrick
 

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