Wave Propagation in a Hanging Rope: Time for Reflection and Return

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The discussion focuses on the wave propagation in a hanging rope, specifically analyzing the time it takes for a wave to travel to the ceiling, reflect, and return to the lower end. The wave velocity is derived using the formula v = sqrt(F/u), leading to v = sqrt(gL) for a uniform rope. Participants express uncertainty regarding the application of the wave equation y(t) = A cos(kt - w) and the implications of variable tension along the rope. The need for integration to account for changing tension based on position is emphasized as a critical step in solving the problem.

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  • Understanding of wave motion equations, specifically y(t) = A cos(kt - w)
  • Knowledge of tension and mass distribution in a hanging rope
  • Familiarity with the concept of wave velocity derived from tension and linear mass density
  • Basic calculus for integration to handle variable tension
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  • Learn about the integration of tension as a function of position in a hanging rope
  • Study the effects of variable tension on wave propagation
  • Investigate advanced wave equations applicable to complex boundary conditions
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Homework Statement


A uniform rope of length L and negligible stiffness hangs from a solid fixture in the ceiling
The free lower end of the rope is struck sharply at time t=0. What is the time t it takes the resulting wave on the rope to travel to the ceiling, be reflected, and return to the lower end of the rope?

Homework Equations



Equation for wave motion - is it this:
y(t ) = A cos (kt - w),
for some constants k,w.

The Attempt at a Solution


v = sqrt (F/u) = sqrt (mg/ (m/L) ) = sqrt (gL)
this implies that velocity is constant for the wave. I was wondering if this was correct, since it looks suspicious.
From here, I'm not exactly sure where to go - which wave equation should I use to go further (to solve and find out what I want to find out?). Would plugging into the equation I had before, y( t) = A cos(kt-w), be the way to go?
 
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F is not a constant in this case, each part of the rope is beeing stretched differently depending on how close it is to the ceiling
 
In that case, how would I deal with a situation where F is not constant? I have only learned so far how to deal with cases where it is constant.
 
the equation for v is still valid you just have to write F in terms of x (where x is distance from the bottom part of the rope)
 
You'll need to integrate. Find the speed of the wave as a function of position along the rope. (What's the tension as a function of position?)
 

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