Wavefunctions of Singlet and Triplet States

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The discussion focuses on the wavefunctions of two-electron systems, specifically examining the singlet and triplet states in quantum mechanics. Participants explore the implications of exchange symmetry on the spin and spatial wavefunctions, addressing the conditions for antisymmetry required for identical fermions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the decomposition of spin states for two electrons and notes the symmetry properties of triplet and singlet states upon exchanging particles.
  • Another participant emphasizes the requirement for the overall wavefunction of identical fermions to be antisymmetric under particle exchange, leading to conditions on the spatial and spin components of the wavefunction.
  • Concerns are raised about the apparent contradiction in the book's claims regarding the symmetry of wavefunctions associated with triplet and singlet states.
  • A participant questions the mathematical reasoning behind the equality of certain wavefunctions in the triplet state, seeking clarification on the implications of spin exchanges.
  • Further inquiries are made regarding the mathematical formulation of the total wavefunction and the implications of swapping spins on the components of the wavefunction vector.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of the symmetry properties of wavefunctions in singlet and triplet states, with no consensus reached on the specific conditions or implications of these properties.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential ambiguities in the definitions and mathematical formulations presented, particularly regarding the symmetry and antisymmetry of wavefunctions in relation to particle exchanges.

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If we have a system of two electrons, addition of angular momentum tells us that the spin states of the composite system can be decomposed into those of the two electrons as follows
|1,1>=|+>|+>
|1,0>=(|+>|-> + |->|+>)√2
|1,-1>=|->|->
|0,0>=(|+>|-> - |->|+>)√2
where the states are |s,ms> for the composite system and |±> is the spin up or down state of an electron.

From this, if you switch the electrons around, the first three (triplet) states are unchanged (symmetric), whilst the final (singlet) state picks up a sign (antisymmetric).

My book states that to fully specify a wavefunction of two electrons, we need to specify four wavefunctions of the form Ψ++(x,x'), Ψ-+(x,x'), Ψ+-(x,x') and Ψ--(x,x') which give the amplitudes of finding the first electron at x and the second at x' with spin states denoted by the subscripts, which it then writes as a vector: <x,x'|Ψ>=(Ψ++-++---). By exchange symmetry, all four of these wavefunctions pick up a sign when you swap the two electrons.

If we have the state |Ψ>=|1,1> then clearly the amplitude of measuring the two electrons anywhere such that the spin states aren't ++ is zero, so the vector reduces to <x,x'|Ψ>=(Ψ++,0,0,0). Likewise for |Ψ>=|->|->.

However for the remaining states, things get a bit weird in two ways. Looking at the remaining triplet state, we can deduce that the vector becomes <x,x'|Ψ>=(0,Ψ-++-,0), but for some reason my books claims that the two non-vanishing wavefunctions are actually identical. Why is this?

Looking at the singlet state, we can deduce the vector becomes <x,x'|Ψ>=(0,Ψ-++-,0) as before, but now my book claims that the two non-vanishing wavefunctions differ only in sign. Again, why is this so?

There is a further issue with the singlet state - writing the vector as <x,x'|Ψ>=Ψ0(x,x')(0,1,-1,0), my book shows that Ψ0 is symmetric under a swap of its arguments, yet clearly Ψ0-+ which is anti-symmetric under a swap of its arguments, so how does that work? Also, this means that all the triplet wavefunctions are antisymmetric and the singlet wavefunction is symmetric, in contrast to what I deduced for the states at the beginning of this post - why is that.

Thanks for any answers!
 
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The fundamental requirement is that the state of two identical fermions must be antisymmetric under exchange of the two particles. This means exchanging both their positions and their spins. This means that

##\psi_{+-}(x, y) = - \psi_{-+}(y, x)## (note that both spins and positions have been exchanged)

##\psi_{++}(x, y) = - \psi_{++}(y, x)## (again both spins and positions have been exchanged, though the spins are identical so you can't really tell)

##\psi_{--}(x, y) = -\psi_{--}(y, x)##

Those are the overall requirements on the state.

This has the following consequences: if the spin state is symmetric (a triplet state) then the spatial wave function must be antisymmetric to maintain the overall asymmetry. If the spin state is antisymmetric (the singlet state) then the spatial wave function must be symmetric to maintain the overall asymmetry.

For example let's say the spin state is the triplet state. The triplet state is unchanged (symmetric) if you exchange the spins of the two particles, as you can see from the spin states you wrote out at the beginning. In wave function language this means

##\psi_{+-}(x, y) = \psi_{-+}(x, y)## (note I haven't swapped the positions in this equation)

If we combine this with the overall antisymmetry requirement ##\psi_{+-}(x, y) = - \psi_{-+}(y, x)##, we find

##\psi_{-+}(x, y) = -\psi_{-+}(y, x)## -- the spatial wave function is antisymmetric. As promised, the symmetric spin state is "compensated" by an antisymmetric spatial wave function to maintain overall antisymmetry of the state.
 
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The_Duck said:
For example let's say the spin state is the triplet state. The triplet state is unchanged (symmetric) if you exchange the spins of the two particles, as you can see from the spin states you wrote out at the beginning. In wave function language this means

##\psi_{+-}(x, y) = \psi_{-+}(x, y)## (note I haven't swapped the positions in this equation)

Thanks for the reply - I think I'm close to understanding it. I can't quite understand what I've quoted above though - how does this follow (maybe a mathematical explanation will help me better)?

Edit: I can't see how what you've said holds mathematically - i.e in the triplet state, write the overall wavefunction as a superposition of the two other wavefunctions,
Ψ=(Ψ+--+)/√2
now swapping spins just swaps the subscripts in each wavefunction, leaving the same overall wavefunction - I don't see how this is a condition for the two wavefunctions to equal.
 
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Can anybody answer my follow up question? Thanks :)
 
fayled said:
Edit: I can't see how what you've said holds mathematically - i.e in the triplet state, write the overall wavefunction as a superposition of the two other wavefunctions,
Ψ=(Ψ+--+)/√2
now swapping spins just swaps the subscripts in each wavefunction, leaving the same overall wavefunction - I don't see how this is a condition for the two wavefunctions to equal.

The total wave function isn't a sum ##\psi_{++} + \psi_{+-} + \psi_{-+} + \psi_{--}##. It's a 4-component vector ##(\psi_{++}, \psi_{+-}, \psi_{-+}, \psi_{--})##. Swapping the two spins means to exchange the central two components of the vector. This only leaves the overall vector unchanged if the central two components are equal.
 

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