Question on angular momentum of triplet and singlet wavefunctions

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The discussion revolves around the angular momentum properties of triplet and singlet wavefunctions in the context of quantum mechanics, specifically relating to the formation of Cooper pairs in superfluid 3He. Participants explore the implications of different wavefunction combinations on angular momentum values.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on why the wavefunction (|+,-> + |-,+>) has non-zero angular momentum while (|+,-> - |-,+>) has angular momentum l = 0.
  • Another participant suggests that the explanation involves angular momentum or spin addition and references Clebsch-Gordon coefficients as relevant to the discussion.
  • A later reply indicates that the raising operator J_+ gives zero when acting on the state in question, but cautions that this alone does not imply total angular momentum is zero.
  • It is noted that J_x, J_y, and J_z also yield zero when acting on the state, suggesting it is an eigenstate of the angular momentum operator with eigenvalue zero.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the angular momentum operators acting on the states, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the total angular momentum of the states in question.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific equations from external sources to support their claims, but the discussion does not resolve the underlying assumptions or definitions related to angular momentum in this context.

The_Foetus
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Hi, I'm relatively new to QM so just a basic explanation of my problem would be amazing!

I'm doing some internet research on superfluidity over my summer holiday, and was looking specifically at 3He, and the way it forms Cooper pairs. Having read a classical analogy to why the relative angular momentum of the two He atoms must not be 0, I then read that this excludes the possibility of having the wavefunction (|+,-> - |-,+>)/√2, where + and - represent up and down spin respectively.

This leaves then a possible triplet wavefunction of
ψ = a*|+,+> + b*(|+,-> + |-,+>)/√2 + c*|-,->
where a, b, c are constants.

My question is why the |+,-> + |-,+> state has a non-zero angular momentum, but the |+,-> - |-,+> state has l = 0.

Simple question I know, but would really appreciate an explanation.
Regards,
Foetus
 
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The_Foetus said:
My question is why the |+,-> + |-,+> state has a non-zero angular momentum, but the |+,-> - |-,+> state has l = 0.
The raising operator J_+ gives zero when acting on that state.
 
But that's not enough information to conclude that the total angular momentum is zero. (In QM jargon, not intended for the OP, J_+ annihilates any state with m=+j.)

However, it's also true that J_x, J_y, and J_z all give zero when acting on this state. So it is an eigenstate of each component of the angular momentum operator with eigenvalue zero.
 

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