Ways an organism can survive in extreme conditions.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores how organisms might survive on a hypothetical planet with low atmospheric pressure, specifically focusing on the implications for water boiling at lower temperatures and the potential adaptations required for survival in such extreme conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a scenario involving a planet with 0.5 Earth mass and 0.8 Earth radii, questioning how organisms could survive with an atmospheric pressure of 0.03 bar where water boils at 75 degrees F.
  • Another participant suggests that organisms could adapt to their environment or utilize artificial environments, emphasizing the need for high internal body pressure to maintain liquid water at a body temperature of 80 degrees F.
  • There is speculation about organisms potentially acting as biological steam engines or having external bladders to store liquid water, although one participant notes that speculation is against the rules.
  • A later reply highlights the resilience of life on Earth and suggests looking at extremophiles as examples of survival in extreme environments, broadening the scope of potential solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express curiosity and propose various ideas about survival strategies, but there is no consensus on specific mechanisms or adaptations that would enable survival in the described conditions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion involves speculative scenarios about hypothetical organisms and their adaptations, with no established scientific consensus on the feasibility of the proposed survival strategies.

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Lets ay there is a 0.5 Earth mass and 0.8 Earth radii planet orbiting a Sun like star at the same distance Earth is orbiting its Sun. Its atmospheric pressure would be 0.03 bar. Water boils at 75 degrees F at this pressure. How could an organism living on the surface survive?

Another question...Lets say the organisms body temperature was 80 degrees F.

Would the water within the organism boil off due to the low atmospheric pressure or could the outside pressure have no affect? If it could be prevented how?
 
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It could survive by being adapted to it's environment or by using an artificial environment.

To have a body temp of 80F, and rely on liquid water to survive, would probably mean being able to maintain a high internal body pressure too. It could also live in a cooler region with liquid water on the surface and just have a large throughput (it would take a while for the water just drunk to boil). Maybe the organism acts as a biological steam engine? Or maybe it has an external bladder to store liquid water? Basically you can take your pick - bearing in mind that speculation is against the rules.

What is the scientific context for the question?
 
I am just very curious how an organism could survive in an extreme environment. Thanks I never even imagined an organism could do those things.
 
willstaruss22 said:
I never even imagined an organism could do those things.
Really? - Then you should look at how Earth organisms survive the range of environments offered on our own planet. Life is pretty tenacious.

Note: "organism" covers everything from a virus to a colony of fungus to an Apatosaur.
It includes all such things currently living and extinct and yet to be. That gives quite a lot of scope for finding a solution.

i.e.
http://www.nss.org/adastra/volume14/rothschild.html
http://www.livescience.com/13377-extremophiles-world-weirdest-life.html
 
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