Weak force and axial vector coupling

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of "pure axial vector" coupling in the context of the weak force, specifically related to the decay of the pi-meson as described in David Griffith's book "Intro to Elementary Particles." Participants explore the implications of this coupling, its physical meaning, and the mathematical aspects of the weak interaction vertex.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that only the term with gamma_5 contributes to the weak force vertex.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the physical implications of pure axial coupling, questioning whether only certain particle types engage in this coupling.
  • A further inquiry is made regarding the mathematical workings of the weak interaction, specifically how the vector part of the V-A (vector minus axial vector) coupling does not contribute when the axial part is multiplied by the vector (γuγ5).
  • One participant explains that the weak interaction involves weak currents and that for leptons, the currents are free and of the V-A form, while quarks in the pion are in a bound pseudoscalar state, complicating the formation of a vector current.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and seek clarification on the concepts, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple viewpoints on the implications and workings of axial vector coupling.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about particle types and the mathematical treatment of the weak interaction, which are not fully explored or resolved.

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Hi physics forum,

I have been reading David Griffith's book "intro to elementary particles" and he
describes the decay of the pi-meson as "pure axial vector"

Can someone tell me what this means, in terms of the weak force vertex consisting of
this factor

γu(1-γ5)

Thanks, Mark
 
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Only the term with the gamma_5 in it contributes.
 
Thanks for the reply. I'll follow up 1) what does that mean physically, for example, do only certain particle types engage in pure axial coupling? 2) can you say a little as how
the math would work (how can the vector part of V-A not contribute, since the axial
part is multiplied by the vector (γuγ5

I am a novice in this, so it may not be a good question! -Mark
 
db, The weak interaction is an interaction between weak currents, JμJμ. For the lepton pair the particles are free, and Jμ is of the V-A form.

However the quarks that make up the pion are not free, they are in a bound pseudoscalar state. You can combine their wavefunction with the 4-momentum kμ to construct an axial vector current, but there is no way to make a vector current.
 

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