Web browser to get 'privacy mode'

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The discussion revolves around the introduction of privacy tools in web browsers, particularly focusing on Internet Explorer's upcoming features and comparing them to existing functionalities in Firefox and other browsers. Participants explore the implications of privacy modes, the effectiveness of various privacy tools, and the general approach to user privacy in web browsing.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention that Internet Explorer will introduce privacy tools, questioning whether Firefox already offers superior privacy features through extensions like NoScript.
  • There is a suggestion that if the new privacy features in IE are merely software protections, hardware solutions like routers may provide better security.
  • One participant expresses that privacy mode should primarily focus on keeping the user's IP address private, though the feasibility of this is questioned.
  • Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of privacy features in catering to less knowledgeable users, with some arguing that Firefox already provides flexible options for managing private data.
  • Participants discuss the limitations of browsers in hiding IP addresses, suggesting that tools like TOR can enhance privacy by routing data through multiple servers.
  • There are inquiries about the necessity of clearing browsing history, with some participants humorously questioning the reasons behind such actions.
  • Technical details about configuring privacy settings in Firefox are shared, with participants noting differences in versions and providing step-by-step guidance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the effectiveness and necessity of privacy tools in browsers. While some believe Firefox already has adequate features, others are skeptical about the new offerings from Internet Explorer and their actual utility.

Contextual Notes

There are varying assumptions about user knowledge and the effectiveness of different privacy tools. The discussion also reflects differing experiences with browser versions and their settings, which may affect participants' views on privacy management.

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This news was saying that IE will get privacy tools in 2008
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7574265.stm

There's another browser (mentioned in the above article)
http://xerobank.com/personal_intro.php
that allows secure surfing at 1$/month?

I was wondering doesn't Firefox have it all already?

With NoScript and other privacy tools , it seems like Firefox is way ahead of other browsers?
 
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I'd like to know exactly what goes into that. If it's added "hacker security", then something like a router will go a lot further than any software protection.

If it's something like a pop-up blocker on steroids, then you can bet you'll see Firefox come out with something much better and free fairly soon.
 
I was thinking that privacy mode is something that keeps your IP private or something.
 
From reading the article, it just sounds like they're just catering to the idiots who use I.E. and don't know how to open a menu to limit browsing history, clear the cache, or remove cookies. And, yes, Firefox already has something like that (though the article writer seems unaware of it...must be an I.E. user). What I like about Firefox is you can select which things you want cleared at the end of a browser session (or not stored at all), and then you can set it to ask before you close it if you want to clear all those things in case you don't want to, or you can tell it not to ask and to do it by default every time. I don't think the option is Safari is as flexible...I'm pretty sure it's an all-or-none choice when you clear private data.
 
All decent (non-IE) browsers let you selectively delete cookies/history etc on exit.
Or you can use a very simple browser like ob1 (offbyone.com) which doesn't store anything anyway.

There is nothing the browser can do directly to hide your IP - after all the server has to know where to send the page to - but you can make it more difficult by using TOR which makes the data take multiple random hops between other machines on the way to and from the server. You can get a TOR button plugin for firefox that does this, or 'OperaTor' a version of opera that always uses tor.
 
Moonbear said:
From reading the article, it just sounds like they're just catering to the idiots who use I.E. and don't know how to open a menu to limit browsing history, clear the cache, or remove cookies. And, yes, Firefox already has something like that (though the article writer seems unaware of it...must be an I.E. user). What I like about Firefox is you can select which things you want cleared at the end of a browser session (or not stored at all), and then you can set it to ask before you close it if you want to clear all those things in case you don't want to, or you can tell it not to ask and to do it by default every time. I don't think the option is Safari is as flexible...I'm pretty sure it's an all-or-none choice when you clear private data.

I have Firefox MoonB, so now i have time how do you set these things?
 
wolram said:
I have Firefox MoonB, so now i have time how do you set these things?

Select Edit > Preferences, then the "privacy" tab. The feature that MB is talking about specifically is the "Always clear my private data when I close Firefox": click on the checkbox to activate, and then the settings box to the right of this message to select what you want deleted.

Caveat: that is on FF2, so it may be different on 3.
 
cristo said:
Select Edit > Preferences, then the "privacy" tab. The feature that MB is talking about specifically is the "Always clear my private data when I close Firefox": click on the checkbox to activate, and then the settings box to the right of this message to select what you want deleted.

Caveat: that is on FF2, so it may be different on 3.

FF 3:
Tools>Options>Privacy tab
I don't remember having Preferences in Edit in FF2

I found TOR, mgb was talking about:
http://cups.cs.cmu.edu/foxtor/

In FF, cookies/data are cleared at the session end. It is scary because our activities might be tracked at least for the time we are in the session
[e.g. we went to a bad site in the beginning and then do normal surfing without restarting FF. I have done that some many times :cry:].
But, I guess with FoxTor or OffByOne would help.
 
What exactly are all you people doing that you have to clear your browsing history? Own up to your sins!
Edit:rootX, you don't have to own up to your sins, I heard about the gay animal porn and don't think it would be a good idea to spread it around.
 
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tribdog said:
What exactly are all you people doing that you have to clear your browsing history? Own up to your sins!
Edit:rootX, you don't have to own up to your sins, I heard about the gay animal porn and don't think it would be a good idea to spread it around.

:smile:

no one else uses my laptop, so I don't have to worry about the history. There are many non-pornographic sites that are install adware..etc. And, then spamming is also another problem.

I am much more concerned about
  • Banking
  • My email passwords

You can test it for yourself. Go to all *your good* sites without clearing history/data on IE and then run some anti-spyware.
 
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rootX said:
I don't remember having Preferences in Edit in FF2
I don't use Windows, so therein probably lies the difference.
 
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Don't all computers require Windows in order to run?

Just kidding! (Were you fooled?)
 
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When you say IE, you do mean IE8?
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/ie/ie8/default.mspx

I'm about to download and test
 
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