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The discussion revolves around calculating the time it takes for a package dropped from a helicopter ascending at 2.00 m/s from a height of 160 m to reach the ground. Initial attempts incorrectly included the ascent time of the helicopter, which is not relevant to the fall time. The correct approach involves determining how high the package rises after being released and then calculating the total fall time using kinematic equations. It is emphasized that the upward motion is minimal and may not significantly affect the overall time. The problem is framed as a standard physics exercise, highlighting the importance of considering both ascent and descent phases.
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Q: A helicopter is ascending vertically with a speed of 2.00 m/s. At a height of 160 m above the Earth, a package is dropped from a window. How much time does it take for the package to reach the ground?

Attempt:
[how long it takes to reach the height]
v=delta d/time
2=160/time
2(time)=160
time=80 seconds

[how long it takes to fall]
v=delta d/time
9.8=160/time
9.8(time)=160
time=16.326

80+16.326

96.3 s (which is wrong.)
 
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berenmacbowma said:
Attempt:
[how long it takes to reach the height]
v=delta d/time
2=160/time
2(time)=160
time=80 seconds
The time it takes for the helicopter to reach the given height is irrelevant. They just want the time it takes for the package to fall to the ground, starting from the moment it is dropped.

[how long it takes to fall]
v=delta d/time
9.8=160/time
9.8(time)=160
time=16.326
9.8 m/s^2 is the acceleration of the falling package, not the speed.

How can you express the position of the package as a function of time? It is uniformly accelerated motion. (You'll need to review your kinematic equations. Here's a list: Basic Equations of 1-D Kinematics)
 
berenmacbowma said:
Q: A helicopter is ascending vertically with a speed of 2.00 m/s. At a height of 160 m above the Earth, a package is dropped from a window. How much time does it take for the package to reach the ground?

Attempt:
[how long it takes to reach the height]
v=delta d/time
2=160/time
2(time)=160
time=80 seconds

Read the question again. When the package is released at 160m it is traveling upwards at same speed as the helicopter. It will carry on upwards for a bit. You need to work out how much higher it goes and add that to the 160m. Also calculate the time that phase takes.

Hint: Use one of the equations of motion to account the deceleration due to gravity.

[how long it takes to fall]
v=delta d/time
9.8=160/time
9.8(time)=160
time=16.326

80+16.326

96.3 s (which is wrong.)

Having worked out the height it reaches in part one you can then work out how long it takes to fall.

Then add the time for each phase together.

Hint: use one of the equations of motion to take into account the acceleration due to gravity.
 
the upward motion the package will have will be rather insignificant because the 2m/s speed isn't fast enough to make a difference in the problem, keep in mind this is a basic physics homework, the person that made the exercise wasn't probably thinking of the upward motion, since this is probably a high school exercise.
 
The difference is about 7%.
 
Nogueira said:
keep in mind this is a basic physics homework, the person that made the exercise wasn't probably thinking of the upward motion, since this is probably a high school exercise.
I suspect that the author of the problem was well aware of the upward motion--that's part of the point of the exercise. Such problems are standard fare.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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