Webassign - Dropping a Package From a Helicopter

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The problem involves a helicopter ascending vertically at a speed of 2.00 m/s, from which a package is dropped at a height of 160 m. The main question is to determine the time it takes for the package to reach the ground after being released.

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  • Participants discuss the time it takes for the package to fall, with some initially calculating the time for the helicopter's ascent as well. There are questions about the relevance of the upward motion of the package and how to account for it in the calculations. Suggestions are made to express the package's position as a function of time and to consider the effects of gravity on its motion.

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Some participants have pointed out the need to reconsider the upward motion of the package after it is dropped, suggesting that it may not be negligible. Others have provided hints about using kinematic equations to analyze the motion more accurately. The discussion is ongoing, with multiple interpretations being explored.

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There is a mention of the problem being a basic physics homework exercise, which may influence the assumptions made by participants regarding the significance of the upward motion. Some participants express skepticism about the complexity intended by the problem's author.

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Q: A helicopter is ascending vertically with a speed of 2.00 m/s. At a height of 160 m above the Earth, a package is dropped from a window. How much time does it take for the package to reach the ground?

Attempt:
[how long it takes to reach the height]
v=delta d/time
2=160/time
2(time)=160
time=80 seconds

[how long it takes to fall]
v=delta d/time
9.8=160/time
9.8(time)=160
time=16.326

80+16.326

96.3 s (which is wrong.)
 
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berenmacbowma said:
Attempt:
[how long it takes to reach the height]
v=delta d/time
2=160/time
2(time)=160
time=80 seconds
The time it takes for the helicopter to reach the given height is irrelevant. They just want the time it takes for the package to fall to the ground, starting from the moment it is dropped.

[how long it takes to fall]
v=delta d/time
9.8=160/time
9.8(time)=160
time=16.326
9.8 m/s^2 is the acceleration of the falling package, not the speed.

How can you express the position of the package as a function of time? It is uniformly accelerated motion. (You'll need to review your kinematic equations. Here's a list: Basic Equations of 1-D Kinematics)
 
berenmacbowma said:
Q: A helicopter is ascending vertically with a speed of 2.00 m/s. At a height of 160 m above the Earth, a package is dropped from a window. How much time does it take for the package to reach the ground?

Attempt:
[how long it takes to reach the height]
v=delta d/time
2=160/time
2(time)=160
time=80 seconds

Read the question again. When the package is released at 160m it is traveling upwards at same speed as the helicopter. It will carry on upwards for a bit. You need to work out how much higher it goes and add that to the 160m. Also calculate the time that phase takes.

Hint: Use one of the equations of motion to account the deceleration due to gravity.

[how long it takes to fall]
v=delta d/time
9.8=160/time
9.8(time)=160
time=16.326

80+16.326

96.3 s (which is wrong.)

Having worked out the height it reaches in part one you can then work out how long it takes to fall.

Then add the time for each phase together.

Hint: use one of the equations of motion to take into account the acceleration due to gravity.
 
the upward motion the package will have will be rather insignificant because the 2m/s speed isn't fast enough to make a difference in the problem, keep in mind this is a basic physics homework, the person that made the exercise wasn't probably thinking of the upward motion, since this is probably a high school exercise.
 
The difference is about 7%.
 
Nogueira said:
keep in mind this is a basic physics homework, the person that made the exercise wasn't probably thinking of the upward motion, since this is probably a high school exercise.
I suspect that the author of the problem was well aware of the upward motion--that's part of the point of the exercise. Such problems are standard fare.
 

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